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Posted: Tue May 15th, 2007 10:28 am |
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Perfect for me what does anyone else think?
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Posted: Tue May 15th, 2007 10:42 am |
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 Thxs I needed that.
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| If he (Owen) hadn't gone off injured on Sunday then I would agree that this was a reasonable swap. If he can prove his fitness then I wouldn't have any objection but it won't happen. Owen won't come to Bolton - he still wants to play fo England.
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Posted: Tue May 15th, 2007 10:46 am |
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Ok so why would we want to buy a player who with the best will in the World is injury prone, has not fully returned from his latest injury and is the least "Team" orientated player in the World ?
If we don't want to buy this player why would we then want to swap our best striker and probably one of the most gifted players in the world for Mr Owen ?
Michael plays for Michael nobody else, and he does not fit into any team without having to completely design your tactics around Michael. Real Madrid could not do this, Liverpool struggled to accomodate him (and in shuffling the pack threw away Robbie Fowler) and then when he was not winning anything he left them and guess what Liverpool recovered and won the Champions League.
Owen is a spent force IMHO, his main asset being his pace left him a couple of injuries ago, but he could always keep Mr Fortune company in the Physio room.
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Catte Strophe wrote: ... Owen is a spent force IMHO, his main asset being his pace left him a couple of injuries ago, but he could always keep Mr Fortune company in the Physio room.
No he can't. I am pretty sure that Quinton's lease is up and he has to move out in the summer.
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Posted: Tue May 15th, 2007 10:57 am |
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I think QF was a 1 yr deal with an option ...... guess we will not "exercise" that option.
So MO will be all alone if we ever bought him :hang: becaus JoB should be back for next season 
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Posted: Tue May 15th, 2007 11:02 am |
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chortle....
ickle Owen wouldn't come to tiny Bolton in a million years, he still has his brand and image to think of, and BWFCers don't get picked for England.
Anelka is quicker, fitter and more of a team player these days, what would we gain?, apart from an increase on the wages bill.
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Posted: Tue May 15th, 2007 11:09 am |
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What and Anelka " Id go to a BIG club" If I could isn't?
Catte Strophe wrote: Ok so why would we want to buy a player who with the best will in the World is injury prone, has not fully returned from his latest injury and is the least "Team" orientated player in the World ?
Last edited on Tue May 15th, 2007 11:12 am by DaysofRioch
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a tough, strong bruiser thats also very skilfull,quick and a crack marksman!" So you reckon?... Yeah!! he is only our top goalscorer and one of the top goalscorers in the premiership.
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Posted: Tue May 15th, 2007 11:10 am |
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Frankie you need to stop posting from that mobile i cannot understand a word of it.
Frankie wrote: I think QF was a 1 yr deal with an option ...... guess we will not "exercise" that option.
So MO will be all alone if we ever bought him :hang: becaus JoB should be back for next season
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Cowdrill: "Anelka isnt any of these things IMO,basically we need a hybrid of Anelka and SKD.
a tough, strong bruiser thats also very skilfull,quick and a crack marksman!" So you reckon?... Yeah!! he is only our top goalscorer and one of the top goalscorers in the premiership.
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Posted: Tue May 15th, 2007 11:16 am |
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I think Michael Owen is a good footballer and a good professional, only problem is his injuries. He relied heavily on his pace to beat the last man and thats gone. No one can doubt his finishing but he needs to change his game now he has lost his pace and start using his head a little more to find the space he needs.
I wouldnt swap him with Anelka. As mentioned he is quicker, fitter and possibly a better finisher. Plus his wages are likely to be higher than Anelka.
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Posted: Tue May 15th, 2007 11:21 am |
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| I was only answering this working on the principle that Anelka may well follow Sam. If he does then I wouldn't say no to a fit Michael Owen. I would prefer to keep Anelka.
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Posted: Tue May 15th, 2007 12:05 pm |
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DaysofRioch wrote: What and Anelka " Id go to a BIG club" If I could isn't?
I would say YES Anelka is more of a Team player than Michael.
DOR it is a short career and you have to make the most of it, can't hate some one for having ambition. You should hate people like Matt Le Tossier for waisting a mountain of talent at a backwater like Southampton.
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Posted: Tue May 15th, 2007 12:33 pm |
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anelka's a waaay more team oriented player...
owen wouldnt come,
owen isnt as good , he's far more one dimensional,
owen would cost more.
DaysofRioch wrote: What and Anelka " Id go to a BIG club" If I could isn't?
Catte Strophe wrote: Ok so why would we want to buy a player who with the best will in the World is injury prone, has not fully returned from his latest injury and is the least "Team" orientated player in the World ?
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Posted: Tue May 15th, 2007 12:43 pm |
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Now that I would agree with
Catte Strophe wrote: DaysofRioch wrote: What and Anelka " Id go to a BIG club" If I could isn't?
I would say YES Anelka is more of a Team player than Michael.
DOR it is a short career and you have to make the most of it, can't hate some one for having ambition. You should hate people like Matt Le Tossier for waisting a mountain of talent at a backwater like Southampton.
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a tough, strong bruiser thats also very skilfull,quick and a crack marksman!" So you reckon?... Yeah!! he is only our top goalscorer and one of the top goalscorers in the premiership.
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Posted: Tue May 15th, 2007 12:44 pm |
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Sell anelka to valencia for 12 million and you have your wages.
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a tough, strong bruiser thats also very skilfull,quick and a crack marksman!" So you reckon?... Yeah!! he is only our top goalscorer and one of the top goalscorers in the premiership.
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Posted: Tue May 15th, 2007 05:03 pm |
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DaysofRioch wrote: Frankie you need to stop posting from that mobile i cannot understand a word of it.
Frankie wrote: I think QF was a 1 yr deal with an option ...... guess we will not "exercise" that option.
So MO will be all alone if we ever bought him :hang: becaus JoB should be back for next season
He said Quinton Fortune (QF) signed a 1 year deal with an option to extend. He then goes on to suggest that [presumably given Fortune's continuing injury problems] it would be foolish to exercise that option.
He then asserts that Michael Owen (MO) would be alone in the treatment room because our only other long term injury, Joey O'Brien(JO'B), is back in training and should be able to return to action next season.
Hope this helps.
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Posted: Tue May 15th, 2007 06:59 pm |
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bwfc_lulu wrote: DaysofRioch wrote: Frankie you need to stop posting from that mobile i cannot understand a word of it.
Frankie wrote: I think QF was a 1 yr deal with an option ...... guess we will not "exercise" that option.
So MO will be all alone if we ever bought him :hang: becaus JoB should be back for next season
He said Quinton Fortune (QF) signed a 1 year deal with an option to extend. He then goes on to suggest that [presumably given Fortune's continuing injury problems] it would be foolish to exercise that option.
He then asserts that Michael Owen (MO) would be alone in the treatment room because our only other long term injury, Joey O'Brien(JO'B), is back in training and should be able to return to action next season.
Hope this helps.
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| Beeb Rumour Mill has Man U about to make an offer for Anelka. Ok, they spent £47mill yesterday so they can have Nic for £25mill. Pocket money for them.
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Valderee wrote: Beeb Rumour Mill has Man U about to make an offer for Anelka. Ok, they spent £47mill yesterday so they can have Nic for £25mill. Pocket money for them.
IMO, I think that "The Elk" will still be playing for Bolton next Season, somehow I think that he will want to show some loyalty and have at least another season with us, especially with us being in Europe. I think that his mercenary money moving days are now a thing of the past. I will also say the same thing about Dioufy. Just hoping that I am right.
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2007 08:39 am |
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just more evidence to me that there should be caps on players/wages something.. can't blame the teams taking advantage , but it isnt a level playing field.
man u are only famous because of the league. man u normally take the money when someone buys a rooney mug in the shop.. ie they excersice control (in general) over image rights with relation to the club.. perhaps the FA should start to do the same with relation to the premier league.. ( unless they do already?)
IE , the premier league gets a cut from merchandising , which then is split evenly amongst premierleague teams ( and maybe hand me downs to other teams).. ( i'm assuming the reason man-u can afford this is because they have a large merchendising revenue in relation to other teams)
the interesting part of the season, wasnt the winning, it was "who went down"..
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2007 11:48 am |
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barcelona, man united and newcastle are all chasing anelka, surely theres a swap deal and a bit of cash in a deal there. ill take 17 million from man u cos they are just throwing cash around, eto'o from barca and owen plus 2 million from newcastle. they all sound like good deals to me french press reported this though, so its very unlikely to be true.
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2007 12:12 pm |
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BoltonMassiv wrote: barcelona, man united and newcastle are all chasing anelka, surely theres a swap deal and a bit of cash in a deal there. ill take 17 million from man u cos they are just throwing cash around, eto'o from barca and owen plus 2 million from newcastle. they all sound like good deals to me french press reported this though, so its very unlikely to be true.
17 million may be a bit optimistic
According to Football365 quoting the Telepraph:
'United have made inquiries as to Anelka's availability at Bolton and it is understood that the 28-year-old striker will be allowed to leave if a club competing in next season's Champions League lodge a bid matching the £8 million that Bolton paid Fenerbahce for the Frenchman last August,' reports The Daily Telegraph.
Getout Clause in the contract by the sound of it - although how true it is 
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2007 01:00 pm |
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if true,, no wonder sam wanted champ league..... anelka might not be the only player..
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Michael Owen? Not for me. Injury prone, lazy and an individual player who's one main attribute (his pace) has caught the last bus home.
Personally, I'd be looking to make a small profit on Nic, say 2/2.5 million and put a bid in for Wiltord or Bellamy.
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Salford White wrote: Michael Owen? Not for me. Injury prone, lazy and an individual player who's one main attribute (his pace) has caught the last bus home.
Personally, I'd be looking to make a small profit on Nic, say 2/2.5 million and put a bid in for Wiltord or Bellamy.
Not sure about Bellamy, but can't fault anything else you say. Owen is past his peak now. I'm not saying he won't score goals, but he relied very heavily on his pace. Now that's gone, he won't be getting 30 goals a season.
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I think we need to buy a proven goalscorer if he leaves, cant be bothered with all these cross your fingers and hope kind of strikers. i would like to see us try and get saviola again actually, even though that kind of contradicts what i have just said, although hes not a proven goalscorer is got proven quality, and could probably do better than anelka. apart from him we should try and get gudjohnsen or zigic as a replacement
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2007 03:43 pm |
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Saviola is a proven goal scorer, much more so than Anelka. Can't see him coming here though, much as I'd like it.
BoltonMassiv wrote: I think we need to buy a proven goalscorer if he leaves, cant be bothered with all these cross your fingers and hope kind of strikers. i would like to see us try and get saviola again actually, even though that kind of contradicts what i have just said, although hes not a proven goalscorer is got proven quality, and could probably do better than anelka. apart from him we should try and get gudjohnsen or zigic as a replacement
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2007 04:45 pm |
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| well if Anelka leaves as is being discussed on a massive scale in the press today (make of that what you will) we will be up at least 8 million pounds as i can't see us letting him go for less with 3 years left on his contract and we could certainly throw that money around for someone of similar quality.
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2007 11:08 pm |
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would want atleast 10 big ones for him, we took a punt on him at 8mil and he has shown form again in a class league so IMO he has to be worth more, besides we prob wont get another striker for 8mil who would have as much class as anelka
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