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The problem for me is simple. Hull are winning games. Have they a better squad than us? I really don't think they do. So, where does the blame lie if they can win games with average players when we can't with arguably better players. THAT is a difference in managers. Brownie is the best there is English wise right now. Brown is motivating his players to play better than they are, our players seem to lack motivation at times and is one of the most frustrating things about our team.
It really wouldn't take much to get up the league and it's probrably the difference of players giving 5-10% more in a game. Tactics also need to be spot on and subject to change before a game and during a game if it's not working.
Bolton have no plan B. Hull have plan A, B, C, D, E, F & G.
Motivation. That's what the players need, because clearly the money isn't a motivation. The most motivated player we have is Steinsson, followed by Davies.... Then you start to struggle for players names who bleed for the squad.
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Posted: Tue Oct 21st, 2008 11:12 am |
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Liam wrote: The problem for me is simple. Hull are winning games. Have they a better squad than us? I really don't think they do. So, where does the blame lie if they can win games with average players when we can't with arguably better players. THAT is a difference in managers. Brownie is the best there is English wise right now. Brown is motivating his players to play better than they are, our players seem to lack motivation at times and is one of the most frustrating things about our team.
It really wouldn't take much to get up the league and it's probrably the difference of players giving 5-10% more in a game. Tactics also need to be spot on and subject to change before a game and during a game if it's not working.
Bolton have no plan B. Hull have plan A, B, C, D, E, F & G.
Motivation. That's what the players need, because clearly the money isn't a motivation. The most motivated player we have is Steinsson, followed by Davies.... Then you start to struggle for players names who bleed for the squad.
Do we have a Plan "A" 
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Away We seem good its just the home games that are really p'in me off at the mo.
No one plays the same home and away every week. Unless your one of the big four but they just play attack, attack, attack we play defend, defend, defend.
Football like that makes you wonder sometimes what made you spend 300 n something quid to watch nil - nil all season.
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Mark08 wrote: Sprout wrote: Wwhere we are I think the next 3 games are crucial.
I've aargued for "win home lose away (except against big teams)" as a minimum and we're already 1 point behind that. And we're going into 2 home games (1 against a team lower than us) and an away game against the team with the lowest form in the league.
Now we know the "good Bolton" can do well while the "hoof it Bolton" can't, and I think the next three matches must be the ones for Megson to show which of those teams he's in charge of. Even with bad luck I think we must get a minimum 5 points. Otherwise then I think it's time to accept he can't manage the team well, consistently.
Even if all we get is 5 points then I will still be sceptical - we need to play well (i.e. no hoofing) for those three games - we should be playing the game to the opposition for them all and aiming for 9 points ... this is where I am unconvinced that Megson can deliver - that drive.
bit of a stutter there 
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Liam wrote: The problem for me is simple. Hull are winning games. Have they a better squad than us? I really don't think they do. So, where does the blame lie if they can win games with average players when we can't with arguably better players. THAT is a difference in managers. Brownie is the best there is English wise right now. Brown is motivating his players to play better than they are, our players seem to lack motivation at times and is one of the most frustrating things about our team.
It really wouldn't take much to get up the league and it's probrably the difference of players giving 5-10% more in a game. Tactics also need to be spot on and subject to change before a game and during a game if it's not working.
Bolton have no plan B. Hull have plan A, B, C, D, E, F & G.
Motivation. That's what the players need, because clearly the money isn't a motivation. The most motivated player we have is Steinsson, followed by Davies.... Then you start to struggle for players names who bleed for the squad.
You're oversimplifying the debate Liam and also using the wonderful 'gift' of hindsight.
Do Newcastle and Spurs have a better (on paper) squad than us?
"Brownie is the best there is English wise right now". Of course it seems that way, because his team are right up there and are confounding the critics. But Wigan once confounded the critics, as did Ipswich, and look what happened to them!
Hull are surprising everyone, including PL players and managers. No matter how much a player talks up a game, he still knows that he's walking out to play little old Hull. How hard can that be? The second half of the season (and more importantly, next season) will tell us how good Brownie is as a manager. The vast majority of us felt he didn't have the experience to manage a PL team and although he's proving us wrong right now, I don't think our assessment was wrong. Brownie failed miserably at Derby.........did you think he was a good manager then?
Look at Mark Hughes. Did no more than an ok job at Blackburn and gets the City job......within 24 hours he had become a 'top manager'. There's no doubt Man City will be a force with the money they have, but they've hardly set the PL alight in the first half of the season have they? How good is Mark Hughes?
As for player motivation, I don't think that's an issue. They may look demotivated, but i don't think they are. As everyone says......you know what you'll get from Bolton. That's why we're in the lower half rather than the top 10. Wet Spam 'knew' what they would get from us but we changed our game. We passed the ball.....we thought about the game......we played smarter......and look at the result. This is down to the manager and the style of football he wants to play. If he's trying to play better football and the players aren't up to it.....replace them.
I want us to stay in this league, but i want to be entertained. There are many other leisure areas i could spend my money in, but i choose to spend it on my football club. But there will come a time when it becomes easier not to bother. The annoying thing is that I don't believe for a minute that playing better football would see us struggle with relegation. We have a hard working squad that is good enough to stay up with ease.......Two great keepers, Steinsson, JLS who I know many don't rate, but seems to be getting into the habit of winning MoM awards. A really good centre back pairing and a grafting midfield, who are unlikely to set the world alight, but will carve out chances and work hard in defence. Up front, we have the talent to get enough goals to see us through. Hull got to 3rd place in the table and did it with a goal difference of zero......whilst those around them had scored lots.
We need a change of tactics now, and unlike when Sammy Lee was managing us, we now have the players in place (in the main) to play the type of game we all want to see.
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Posted: Tue Oct 21st, 2008 12:10 pm |
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Billy Bradshaw wrote: Liam wrote: The problem for me is simple. Hull are winning games. Have they a better squad than us? I really don't think they do. So, where does the blame lie if they can win games with average players when we can't with arguably better players. THAT is a difference in managers. Brownie is the best there is English wise right now. Brown is motivating his players to play better than they are, our players seem to lack motivation at times and is one of the most frustrating things about our team.
It really wouldn't take much to get up the league and it's probrably the difference of players giving 5-10% more in a game. Tactics also need to be spot on and subject to change before a game and during a game if it's not working.
Bolton have no plan B. Hull have plan A, B, C, D, E, F & G.
Motivation. That's what the players need, because clearly the money isn't a motivation. The most motivated player we have is Steinsson, followed by Davies.... Then you start to struggle for players names who bleed for the squad.
You're oversimplifying the debate Liam and also using the wonderful 'gift' of hindsight.
Liam - And?
Do Newcastle and Spurs have a better (on paper) squad than us? Liam - Yes
"Brownie is the best there is English wise right now". Of course it seems that way, because his team are right up there and are confounding the critics. But Wigan once confounded the critics, as did Ipswich, and look what happened to them!
Liam - Right now, Brown is the best English manager, the table tells it how it is.
Hull are surprising everyone, including PL players and managers. No matter how much a player talks up a game, he still knows that he's walking out to play little old Hull. How hard can that be? The second half of the season (and more importantly, next season) will tell us how good Brownie is as a manager. The vast majority of us felt he didn't have the experience to manage a PL team and although he's proving us wrong right now, I don't think our assessment was wrong. Brownie failed miserably at Derby.........did you think he was a good manager then?
Liam - He inherited a very poor derby squad, changed things round, and as he started to pick points up was sacked. Then Derby go and get promoted.
Look at Mark Hughes. Did no more than an ok job at Blackburn and gets the City job......within 24 hours he had become a 'top manager'. There's no doubt Man City will be a force with the money they have, but they've hardly set the PL alight in the first half of the season have they? How good is Mark Hughes? Liam - Mark Hughes is a decent manager, I don't think he'll be in that job very long if he doesn't do well this January with his signings. I also don't think he's doing brilliantly, but is doing well, but maybe that's just because they have Robinho in his team.
As for player motivation, I don't think that's an issue. They may look demotivated, but i don't think they are. As everyone says......you know what you'll get from Bolton. That's why we're in the lower half rather than the top 10. Wet Spam 'knew' what they would get from us but we changed our game. We passed the ball.....we thought about the game......we played smarter......and look at the result. This is down to the manager and the style of football he wants to play. If he's trying to play better football and the players aren't up to it.....replace them.
Liam - The players look like they can't be arsed half the time, they're probrably trying very hard but it almost seems like they've got used to not winning or going for it. I agree, if a player isn't good enough replace them.
I want us to stay in this league, but i want to be entertained. There are many other leisure areas i could spend my money in, but i choose to spend it on my football club. But there will come a time when it becomes easier not to bother. The annoying thing is that I don't believe for a minute that playing better football would see us struggle with relegation. We have a hard working squad that is good enough to stay up with ease.......Two great keepers, Steinsson, JLS who I know many don't rate, but seems to be getting into the habit of winning MoM awards. A really good centre back pairing and a grafting midfield, who are unlikely to set the world alight, but will carve out chances and work hard in defence. Up front, we have the talent to get enough goals to see us through. Hull got to 3rd place in the table and did it with a goal difference of zero......whilst those around them had scored lots.
We need a change of tactics now, and unlike when Sammy Lee was managing us, we now have the players in place (in the main) to play the type of game we all want to see.
Liam - So, you agree that the tactics havn't been spot on from Megson and in that aspect often doesn't know how to change a game, even though he has Smolarek, Riga and Ricardo on the bench?
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Posted: Tue Oct 21st, 2008 12:12 pm |
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Billy Bradshaw wrote: Brownie failed miserably at Derby.........did you think he was a good manager then?
To be fair Billy, he didn't have a hope in hell at Derby.
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Liam wrote: Billy Bradshaw wrote: Liam wrote: The problem for me is simple. Hull are winning games. Have they a better squad than us? I really don't think they do. So, where does the blame lie if they can win games with average players when we can't with arguably better players. THAT is a difference in managers. Brownie is the best there is English wise right now. Brown is motivating his players to play better than they are, our players seem to lack motivation at times and is one of the most frustrating things about our team.
It really wouldn't take much to get up the league and it's probrably the difference of players giving 5-10% more in a game. Tactics also need to be spot on and subject to change before a game and during a game if it's not working.
Bolton have no plan B. Hull have plan A, B, C, D, E, F & G.
Motivation. That's what the players need, because clearly the money isn't a motivation. The most motivated player we have is Steinsson, followed by Davies.... Then you start to struggle for players names who bleed for the squad.
You're oversimplifying the debate Liam and also using the wonderful 'gift' of hindsight.
Liam - And?
Do Newcastle and Spurs have a better (on paper) squad than us? Liam - Yes
"Brownie is the best there is English wise right now". Of course it seems that way, because his team are right up there and are confounding the critics. But Wigan once confounded the critics, as did Ipswich, and look what happened to them!
Liam - Right now, Brown is the best English manager, the table tells it how it is.
Hull are surprising everyone, including PL players and managers. No matter how much a player talks up a game, he still knows that he's walking out to play little old Hull. How hard can that be? The second half of the season (and more importantly, next season) will tell us how good Brownie is as a manager. The vast majority of us felt he didn't have the experience to manage a PL team and although he's proving us wrong right now, I don't think our assessment was wrong. Brownie failed miserably at Derby.........did you think he was a good manager then?
Liam - He inherited a very poor derby squad, changed things round, and as he started to pick points up was sacked. Then Derby go and get promoted.
Look at Mark Hughes. Did no more than an ok job at Blackburn and gets the City job......within 24 hours he had become a 'top manager'. There's no doubt Man City will be a force with the money they have, but they've hardly set the PL alight in the first half of the season have they? How good is Mark Hughes? Liam - Mark Hughes is a decent manager, I don't think he'll be in that job very long if he doesn't do well this January with his signings. I also don't think he's doing brilliantly, but is doing well, but maybe that's just because they have Robinho in his team.
As for player motivation, I don't think that's an issue. They may look demotivated, but i don't think they are. As everyone says......you know what you'll get from Bolton. That's why we're in the lower half rather than the top 10. Wet Spam 'knew' what they would get from us but we changed our game. We passed the ball.....we thought about the game......we played smarter......and look at the result. This is down to the manager and the style of football he wants to play. If he's trying to play better football and the players aren't up to it.....replace them.
Liam - The players look like they can't be arsed half the time, they're probrably trying very hard but it almost seems like they've got used to not winning or going for it. I agree, if a player isn't good enough replace them.
I want us to stay in this league, but i want to be entertained. There are many other leisure areas i could spend my money in, but i choose to spend it on my football club. But there will come a time when it becomes easier not to bother. The annoying thing is that I don't believe for a minute that playing better football would see us struggle with relegation. We have a hard working squad that is good enough to stay up with ease.......Two great keepers, Steinsson, JLS who I know many don't rate, but seems to be getting into the habit of winning MoM awards. A really good centre back pairing and a grafting midfield, who are unlikely to set the world alight, but will carve out chances and work hard in defence. Up front, we have the talent to get enough goals to see us through. Hull got to 3rd place in the table and did it with a goal difference of zero......whilst those around them had scored lots.
We need a change of tactics now, and unlike when Sammy Lee was managing us, we now have the players in place (in the main) to play the type of game we all want to see.
Liam - So, you agree that the tactics havn't been spot on from Megson and in that aspect often doesn't know how to change a game, even though he has Smolarek, Riga and Ricardo on the bench?
Id agree with some of what both of you say. I think Mego just needs to be abit braver.
Mark Hughes is a good manager he did well at Wales and they have not been the same since. He's not as good as some make out but he's decent.
Also leaving Gardner on the bench was understandable Ricardo Fuller didn't start for Stoke also and with an extra days recovery. They both played for Jamiaca in the week.
The riga thing though was abit of a joke and Id like to see Smolerek and Riga start in a 4-4-2 at home and leave davies on the bench. Or even leave him on but just at least have two upfront.
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| Megson knew that if he started the season REALLY badly, like Sammy Lee, then he would get the sack. So he's started cagey, done QUITE badly, but not looking like getting the sack. My guess is that when (if?) we win a few more and we start to look more comfortable position wise, then we'll see a slightly more positive attitude. Bravery and expansive football was what Sammy Lee did, and maybe what we didn't need at the start of the season.
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The problem is the players are lazy as F**K, the second problem is megson is terrified to change the style after watching the shambles that is sammy lee.
the two things added up give us a smattering of good football and a load of lazy players playing a lazy long ball game because the manager hasn't got the guts to change it.
I've seen us play some lovely stuff this season and also some complete dog shit, so we're stuck in this "lazy transition"
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'lazy' in their heads and imagination you mean?
theyre not lazy physically
the work rate isnt a problem
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Some of you seem to have forgotten that we lead the Premiership when we first got promoted with Big Sam and Phil in charge. Later on that season we narrowly escaped from relegation. We lead the Premier until about mid November (if memory serves. Hull will have to get over the shell shock of the first couple of defeats in a row.
The remark about Derby, "he didn't have a hope in hell" - well the next manager got Derby promoted within a season and a half. So why didn't Brownie have a hope in hell? At the end of the day some managers are right for the job others aren't. Who knows whether Sammy Lee might be great for another team. He certainly wasn't right for us. Ramos was great for one team bobbins for Spurs - that's how it goes.
This might be a cruel season for us as we might be in a position where sre form is not quite good enough to get away from the relegation zone, but average enough not to be able to sack Megson, e.g Spurs are in such poor form that their decision to sack is easy, whilst on the other hand ours is in the uncertain territory. Megson could get us into the top half or mid table with a couple of results the right way. Three bad results will sack him (from where we stand in the table at the moment).
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Cowdrill wrote: 'lazy' in their heads and imagination you mean?
theyre not lazy physically
the work rate isnt a problem
I agree with Cowdrill on this one. The work rate is fine. But they are lazy in their attitude and tactics. Lump the ball up instead of thinking about it and playing an intelligent pass.
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| We can play good football as we showed v west ham and thats what we should be doing more of instead of hitting the ball long for davies to flick on all the time.And against blackburn when we did around 15 passes in the move where Taylor nearly scored that is what we should be trying to do more because we look a good team when we play like that and a team which could get in and around the top 10.
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| You can play good football when the opposition allows you too. Blackburn was always going to be a tough derby game. The manager could have bought an attacking midfielder and made life a little easier for himself and the supporters in general.
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BTW I'm not suggesting that we sack Megson for now.
What I would say to those who keep saying who do you get? is there are plenty of managers on the dole, loads with experience of the Premiership. A number of whom would be only too willing to take on the role at BWFC and would jump at the chance.
For instance, I'm sure Joe Kinnear would have jumped at the chance, had he been offered the job instead of Megson. The same could have been said about O'Leary.
Now if you say there isn't a supporters 'choice', then that maybe true (though Owen Coyle, Sam Allardyce and Phil Brown were all mentioned at the time). Supporters would normally want a big name that the club might not be able to afford.
What I can't accept is that no one wants the job of BWFC manager. I'd bite your hands off, and so would many supporters and for that matter out of wok managers.
There's always someone who wants the job, whether they'll work any better is anither matter.
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Billy Bradshaw wrote: Cowdrill wrote: 'lazy' in their heads and imagination you mean?
theyre not lazy physically
the work rate isnt a problem
I agree with Cowdrill on this one. The work rate is fine. But they are lazy in their attitude and tactics. Lump the ball up instead of thinking about it and playing an intelligent pass.
to be fair we also had this problem at times under BSA
difference is that BSA had the players that could get away with it
we dont now IMO
yet Megson persists! or if its not down to him he isnt getting his message across to the players
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| my position on megson wont change, but i feel for him a bit today,its a difficult one this, but then thats what he,s paid good money for, so he,d better get it RIGHT, because half this town is spurs fans im probably the only bolton fan in eastbourne im surrounded by the b#st#rds.
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| by the way the other half is mainly red scum unbelievable!!!!
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Nidgster wrote: BTW I'm not suggesting that we sack Megson for now.
What I would say to those who keep saying who do you get? is there are plenty of managers on the dole, loads with experience of the Premiership. A number of whom would be only too willing to take on the role at BWFC and would jump at the chance.
For instance, I'm sure Joe Kinnear would have jumped at the chance, had he been offered the job instead of Megson. The same could have been said about O'Leary.
Now if you say there isn't a supporters 'choice', then that maybe true (though Owen Coyle, Sam Allardyce and Phil Brown were all mentioned at the time). Supporters would normally want a big name that the club might not be able to afford.
What I can't accept is that no one wants the job of BWFC manager. I'd bite your hands off, and so would many supporters and for that matter out of wok managers.
There's always someone who wants the job, whether they'll work any better is anither matter.
There are a few Managers available now. Looking at the odd's for the next QPR and Portsmouth managers.
Gianluca Vialli
Avram Grant
Ian Dowie
Alan Curbishley
Frank Rikard
Terry Venibles
Even Guus Hiddink
Heard on radio Ally mcCoist wants to manage soon, probably in Scotland though.
Sam Allardyce
Phil Brown
Owen Coyle
Plus the ones is remember being suggested on here.
Bruce Rioch
Roberto Martinez
Greame Souness
David O'Leary
My personal favourite though Youri Djorkaeff.
There may be more but Im bored now.
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BringBackBurndenPark wrote: Nidgster wrote: BTW I'm not suggesting that we sack Megson for now.
What I would say to those who keep saying who do you get? is there are plenty of managers on the dole, loads with experience of the Premiership. A number of whom would be only too willing to take on the role at BWFC and would jump at the chance.
For instance, I'm sure Joe Kinnear would have jumped at the chance, had he been offered the job instead of Megson. The same could have been said about O'Leary.
Now if you say there isn't a supporters 'choice', then that maybe true (though Owen Coyle, Sam Allardyce and Phil Brown were all mentioned at the time). Supporters would normally want a big name that the club might not be able to afford.
What I can't accept is that no one wants the job of BWFC manager. I'd bite your hands off, and so would many supporters and for that matter out of wok managers.
There's always someone who wants the job, whether they'll work any better is anither matter.
There are a few Managers available now. Looking at the odd's for the next QPR and Portsmouth managers.
Gianluca Vialli
Avram Grant
Ian Dowie
Alan Curbishley
Frank Rikard
Terry Venibles
Even Guus Hiddink
Heard on radio Ally mcCoist wants to manage soon, probably in Scotland though.
Sam Allardyce
Phil Brown
Owen Coyle
Plus the ones is remember being suggested on here.
Bruce Rioch
Roberto Martinez
Greame Souness
David O'Leary
My personal favourite though Youri Djorkaeff.
There may be more but Im bored now.
When you take out those who we couldn't afford or wouldn't come, it's not necessarily an inspiring list is it?
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Andy Walsh wrote: BringBackBurndenPark wrote: Nidgster wrote: BTW I'm not suggesting that we sack Megson for now.
What I would say to those who keep saying who do you get? is there are plenty of managers on the dole, loads with experience of the Premiership. A number of whom would be only too willing to take on the role at BWFC and would jump at the chance.
For instance, I'm sure Joe Kinnear would have jumped at the chance, had he been offered the job instead of Megson. The same could have been said about O'Leary.
Now if you say there isn't a supporters 'choice', then that maybe true (though Owen Coyle, Sam Allardyce and Phil Brown were all mentioned at the time). Supporters would normally want a big name that the club might not be able to afford.
What I can't accept is that no one wants the job of BWFC manager. I'd bite your hands off, and so would many supporters and for that matter out of wok managers.
There's always someone who wants the job, whether they'll work any better is anither matter.
There are a few Managers available now. Looking at the odd's for the next QPR and Portsmouth managers.
Gianluca Vialli
Avram Grant
Ian Dowie
Alan Curbishley
Frank Rikard
Terry Venibles
Even Guus Hiddink
Heard on radio Ally mcCoist wants to manage soon, probably in Scotland though.
Sam Allardyce
Phil Brown
Owen Coyle
Plus the ones is remember being suggested on here.
Bruce Rioch
Roberto Martinez
Greame Souness
David O'Leary
My personal favourite though Youri Djorkaeff.
There may be more but Im bored now.
When you take out those who we couldn't afford or wouldn't come, it's not necessarily an inspiring list is it?
No I agree with you there. What does my head in is why shouldn't we be able to get most of them?
Portsmouth have the odd's there with Guus Hidink and Frank Rikard.
Are they a Bigger club than us?
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Posted: Sun Oct 26th, 2008 04:31 pm |
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MEGSON OUT
Not got a clue
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Posted: Sun Oct 26th, 2008 04:37 pm |
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Yep, enough sitting on the fence !!!!
We have the players for sure.
HE IS EVEN MORE ONE TRICK THAN BSA !!!
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!!!
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Posted: Sun Oct 26th, 2008 04:42 pm |
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| i think we could get somebody a little bit less negative...boy even I can think of better tactics than megson today., though he'll say we were getting into the game before mccann was sent off!
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Posted: Sun Oct 26th, 2008 05:02 pm |
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F.G.M.B wrote: Yep, enough sitting on the fence !!!!
We have the players for sure.
HE IS EVEN MORE ONE TRICK THAN BSA !!!
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!!!
We still need a few more signings in my opinion, but I do agree on the rest of it.
I really would like to see this team have a go one day:
(Jaaskelainen and same back four)
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---Nolan----------Taylor--------
Riga------------------------Gardner
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Yes yes, that DOES mean we drop Davies, but I think Gardner and Riga will give us both the width and pace to PROVIDE ELMANDER WITH THE SUPPORT HE NEEDS. This is a team game and I think we need to make sacrifices to the team in order to get results, and if that means dropping Davies, then so be it.
I'd like to see Taylor still on the field for the set pieces and I'd like to see O'Brien in the team because I think he's a decent passer and tackler.
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Posted: Sun Oct 26th, 2008 05:08 pm |
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Time to get rid. See Spuds and Ramos - the players want to play a better form of football for someone else.
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Posted: Sun Oct 26th, 2008 05:18 pm |
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| Thats it now not one more game get this muppet out now get the man in before pompey do.MEGSON OUT NOW,
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Posted: Sun Oct 26th, 2008 05:21 pm |
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Why did he even sign Riga and Elmander. He doesn't play Riga and he doesn't let Elmander play.
Like I had never said get rid of Megson - I've never said this before but I'd carry Allardyce back to The Reebok. Today definitely is a day of firsts eh, first Spurs win, first time I said Megson out and first time I've said Allardyce back.
To be truthful, I don't care who the manager is but if Megson stays we had better see a different team next week and if he leaves, let's bring in someone who understands what a win is.
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Posted: Sun Oct 26th, 2008 05:21 pm |
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Tweek wrote: Thats it now not one more game get this muppet out now get the man in before pompey do.MEGSON OUT NOW,
I was thinking exactly the same. Or at least someone else please.
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