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Posted: Mon Jan 19th, 2009 01:27 am |
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Let us have our Middlesbrough away of last season 3 months early please.
The atmosphere there was electric and it was the game which gave us the hope of survival, now although that the situation isn't that dire yet it could easily get that way unless we get ourselves out of this slump. What better way than to push Blackburn back into it?
Tickets are cheap and it's an evening fixture - all adds up to a great atmosphere in my book! Let's get that away end filled and have an atmosphere like when Jussi saved two penalties, this fixture is massive and we have got to be going for three points.
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Posted: Mon Jan 19th, 2009 01:44 am |
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A must win but minimum 1 point.
Elmander still out, will he start with Davies and the new guy up front together?
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Posted: Mon Jan 19th, 2009 01:44 am |
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| I think this is a hugely important game for us. A convincing win would do wonders for confidence and morale in the side. Its not going to be easy though. Tactically speaking we I really think we must hit them hard from the outset. We play much better with a little belief and if we create a few chances early on it will fuel us for the rest of the game.
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Posted: Mon Jan 19th, 2009 09:49 am |
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melbourne dave wrote: A must win but minimum 1 point.
Elmander still out, will he start with Davies and the new guy up front together?
I fear the latter will be the approach - team set up for a draw at best.
Basham MUST start - my choice to accommodate him would be to drop Taylor, push Ricky out left and bring Nolan in to play with him (as in alongside, if you see what I mean).
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Posted: Mon Jan 19th, 2009 11:07 am |
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Just ordered my tickets now, looking forward to this one we usually get a decent atmosphere going at their place.
I would put good money on this team:
Steinsson Cahill O'Brien Samuel
Taylor Nolan Muamba Garnder
Davies Makukula
Not that I want it to be that. Basham deserves his place in the team! I hate to say it, but I can see a 0-0 on the cards here. I hope I'm wrong, and I hope we go and stuff them.
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Posted: Mon Jan 19th, 2009 11:30 am |
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Jussi
Basham Cahill Shittu Samuel
Steinsson Taylor Muamba Gardner
Davies Makakula
Let's kick their heads in.Last edited on Mon Jan 19th, 2009 11:30 am by Liam
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Posted: Mon Jan 19th, 2009 11:39 am |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tqxzWdKKu8
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Posted: Mon Jan 19th, 2009 11:43 am |
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basham to start again for me he was brilliant againt the scum,
jussi
steinson cahill AOB samuel
taylor basham muamba nolan gardner
davies
cant be doing with Big Sam doing especially for the dingles!!!
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| we might have signed someone by the time we roll down the Cahulawassee lol Last edited on Mon Jan 19th, 2009 11:51 am by truewhite15
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Woody
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Posted: Mon Jan 19th, 2009 12:26 pm |
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Ticket booked 
come on you white men!
(also heard in the background on the phone that only lower tier available at the moment, hope we manage to fill it!)Last edited on Mon Jan 19th, 2009 12:27 pm by Woody
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Posted: Mon Jan 19th, 2009 03:21 pm |
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Going to get my ticket and coach tomorrow.
Think we have a great chance of winning this. 2-1 Bolton.
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Posted: Mon Jan 19th, 2009 06:54 pm |
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I really want us to turn them over... and I really mean REALLY. So much more than usual with BSA at the helm. Still p1ssed off at the way he turned us over with Newcastle at the Reebok. Plus he was gloating about beating Newcastle and how he wants to beat us.
Regarding the team;
Jussi
Steinsson Puygrenier Cahill JLS
Basham
Davies Muamba Nolan Gardner
Makakula
Thoughts - Basham deserves his place, I doubt Megson will drop the club captain and Taylor has been poor of late. Davies on the pitch to generally bully everybody. I will be a bit annoyed if Taylor and Nolan play ahead of Basham, although it would probably be a bit more attacking with Taylor on the pitch. Bit of a risky one with Puygrenier ahead of AoB but given AoB's mistakes of late I'd put Puygrenier ahead of him. There would be no real point in getting him in on loan if he wasnt to compete for a place.
2-0 would be nice, but Blackburns strikers have been knocking a few in and I can't see them not scoring, although I have been impressed with our defence in the last couple of games.
I think 2-1 is realistic and achievable.
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Posted: Mon Jan 19th, 2009 07:40 pm |
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| Score first is the key, BSA always struggled to get us into winning positions from losing, if we get the first goal we have a real chance.
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Posted: Mon Jan 19th, 2009 08:14 pm |
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| A proper 6 pointer. It will depend on who has the most fight in them I suspect. We WILL play for a point so the question is if blackburn have enough quality going forward to break us down. I struggle to see anything but a Blackburn win which will see us bang in the middle of a relegation dogfight. Its all about bravery now.
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Posted: Mon Jan 19th, 2009 10:06 pm |
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| I think we have a great chance of winning this game we really need the points and I think we'll win this game 2-1 or 1-0 I really think we'll pick 3 points up.
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The Bullet wrote: A proper 6 pointer. It will depend on who has the most fight in them I suspect. We WILL play for a point so the question is if blackburn have enough quality going forward to break us down. I struggle to see anything but a Blackburn win which will see us bang in the middle of a relegation dogfight. Its all about bravery now.
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Posted: Tue Jan 20th, 2009 08:38 am |
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bdi wrote:
The Bullet wrote: A proper 6 pointer. It will depend on who has the most fight in them I suspect. We WILL play for a point so the question is if blackburn have enough quality going forward to break us down. I struggle to see anything but a Blackburn win which will see us bang in the middle of a relegation dogfight. Its all about bravery now.
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Posted: Tue Jan 20th, 2009 10:42 am |
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We can win this, nothing much between the teams...
However we will go in search of a 0-0 and end up losing concentration and going a goal down and find we have no plan B, 1-0 to Blackburn and another negative display... No wonder Smolarek is confused I think we all are.
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Posted: Tue Jan 20th, 2009 11:33 am |
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The Bullet wrote: bdi wrote:
The Bullet wrote: A proper 6 pointer. It will depend on who has the most fight in them I suspect. We WILL play for a point so the question is if blackburn have enough quality going forward to break us down. I struggle to see anything but a Blackburn win which will see us bang in the middle of a relegation dogfight. Its all about bravery now.
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Can you please stop following me round these boards like a lovestruck teenage girl. If you must comment, at least do it in a manner that is related to the thread. Foolish man.
I doubt girls would follow you about though... I would have thought it the other way round.
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Posted: Tue Jan 20th, 2009 11:39 am |
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The Bullet wrote: A proper 6 pointer. It will depend on who has the most fight in them I suspect. We WILL play for a point so the question is if blackburn have enough quality going forward to break us down. I struggle to see anything but a Blackburn win which will see us bang in the middle of a relegation dogfight. Its all about bravery now.
I concur. Another gritty midfield battle of low quality. If we don't come away with a point, we face the prospect of a place just outside the bottom three depending on other results and a very difficult run in.
Im predicting a bit of a drubbing for us in this one a la Newcastle at home last season.
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Posted: Tue Jan 20th, 2009 11:43 am |
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The Bullet wrote: A proper 6 pointer. It will depend on who has the most fight in them I suspect. We WILL play for a point so the question is if blackburn have enough quality going forward to break us down. I struggle to see anything but a Blackburn win which will see us bang in the middle of a relegation dogfight. Its all about bravery now.
The first two sentences, spot on. The rest is horse excrement. We played for a point against United and Arsenal, where a point is good. Blackburn is different, a point is ok(ish) but a win is the aim here. The question may well be whether Blackburn can break us down, but vice-versa will also be important. Can we start scoring goals? - that's the major issue in this one for me.
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Posted: Tue Jan 20th, 2009 11:48 am |
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| The question is which Bolton side turns up, the one who showed some fighting spirit against United and Arsenal or the one who rolled over for Wigan, Sunderland etc.
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Posted: Tue Jan 20th, 2009 12:05 pm |
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Rory426 wrote: The Bullet wrote: A proper 6 pointer. It will depend on who has the most fight in them I suspect. We WILL play for a point so the question is if blackburn have enough quality going forward to break us down. I struggle to see anything but a Blackburn win which will see us bang in the middle of a relegation dogfight. Its all about bravery now.
The first two sentences, spot on. The rest is horse excrement. We played for a point against United and Arsenal, where a point is good. Blackburn is different, a point is ok(ish) but a win is the aim here. The question may well be whether Blackburn can break us down, but vice-versa will also be important. Can we start scoring goals? - that's the major issue in this one for me.
Strange. One area we have been good in this season is in defence, yet 2 of the last 3-4 posters see us getting beaten and one thinks we're in for a 'drubbing'? I don't understand that. We could easily win or lose, but i don't see why, after the games we have player recently, some see this as an easy win for Blackburn? 
Still....each to their own!
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Posted: Tue Jan 20th, 2009 12:11 pm |
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Woody wrote: The question is which Bolton side turns up, the one who showed some fighting spirit against United and Arsenal or the one who rolled over for Wigan, Sunderland etc.
Suspect it is the rousing battle cry from the manager that creates the mind set of the players going on the field...
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Posted: Tue Jan 20th, 2009 12:18 pm |
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Billy Bradshaw wrote:
Strange. One area we have been good in this season is in defence, yet 2 of the last 3-4 posters see us getting beaten and one thinks we're in for a 'drubbing'? I don't understand that. We could easily win or lose, but i don't see why, after the games we have player recently, some see this as an easy win for Blackburn?
Still....each to their own!
Really difficult to predict. The defence has just played out of it's skin for 180 minutes and got nothing. The fear is they relax and fail to concentrate now because it's 'only' Blackburn (just Mccarthy Roberts and Santa Cruz that is!). That's where the drubbing predictions come from - we've seen it before especially at Ewood.
I'm not in this camp.
The fear of defeat and predictions thereof fall into 2 camps.
1. we go out to defend a 0-0 and just fail again
2. We try to attack a bit more but leave the door open at the back
I'm not in either of these camps.
I predict success.
We will achieve the 0-0 we set out for.
There is no such thing as a must win game for Megson at this stage - only must not loses. The must wins come later when we're in real trouble.
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Posted: Tue Jan 20th, 2009 12:30 pm |
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Ifs Buts and Maybes wrote: Billy Bradshaw wrote:
Strange. One area we have been good in this season is in defence, yet 2 of the last 3-4 posters see us getting beaten and one thinks we're in for a 'drubbing'? I don't understand that. We could easily win or lose, but i don't see why, after the games we have player recently, some see this as an easy win for Blackburn?
Still....each to their own!
Really difficult to predict. The defence has just played out of it's skin for 180 minutes and got nothing. The fear is they relax and fail to concentrate now because it's 'only' Blackburn (just Mccarthy Roberts and Santa Cruz that is!). That's where the drubbing predictions come from - we've seen it before especially at Ewood.
I'm not in this camp.
The fear of defeat and predictions thereof fall into 2 camps.
1. we go out to defend a 0-0 and just fail again
2. We try to attack a bit more but leave the door open at the back
I'm not in either of these camps.
I predict success.
We will achieve the 0-0 we set out for.
There is no such thing as a must win game for Megson at this stage - only must not loses. The must wins come later when we're in real trouble.
So just a matter of time...
IMHO we should have had a go in the last few matches, players being positive and getting a pat on the back are more responsive than those being ultra defensive and being told they have done well to lose...
If we get beat after having 50% of the game and 7 or 8 shots on goal there are positives to take from the game, if we lose having 30% of the game and 1 or 2 shots on goal then well done you were really dull unlucky on losing 1-0 you loser not many positives from that game then..
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Ifs Buts and Maybes wrote: Billy Bradshaw wrote:
Strange. One area we have been good in this season is in defence, yet 2 of the last 3-4 posters see us getting beaten and one thinks we're in for a 'drubbing'? I don't understand that. We could easily win or lose, but i don't see why, after the games we have player recently, some see this as an easy win for Blackburn?
Still....each to their own!
Really difficult to predict. The defence has just played out of it's skin for 180 minutes and got nothing. The fear is they relax and fail to concentrate now because it's 'only' Blackburn (just Mccarthy Roberts and Santa Cruz that is!). That's where the drubbing predictions come from - we've seen it before especially at Ewood.
I'm not in this camp.
The fear of defeat and predictions thereof fall into 2 camps.
1. we go out to defend a 0-0 and just fail again
2. We try to attack a bit more but leave the door open at the back
I'm not in either of these camps.
I predict success.
We will achieve the 0-0 we set out for.
There is no such thing as a must win game for Megson at this stage - only must not loses. The must wins come later when we're in real trouble.
That, worryingly, is a very good post.
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Posted: Tue Jan 20th, 2009 01:54 pm |
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I look at this game in two ways,
1). Local Derby
2). Allardyce
Both are major influences on the game. The Local Derby speaks for itself. Allardyce, will definitely want to put one over us.
If GM, picks the right team, and uses the right tactics, not just a defensive one, then I can see us getting something out of the game. Should he decide and try and play for initially a 0-0 Draw, with the hope of scoring a goal, then I can see another 3 points lost.
These are 3 Points that we cannot afford to lose. If the worst comes to worst, then I will settle for a point, only if we can guarantee 3 points against Spurs in the Home game on the 31st January.
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bdi wrote: I look at this game in two ways,
1). Local Derby
2). Allardyce
Both are major influences on the game. The Local Derby speaks for itself. Allardyce, will definitely want to put one over us.
If GM, picks the right team, and uses the right tactics, not just a defensive one, then I can see us getting something out of the game. Should he decide and try and play for initially a 0-0 Draw, with the hope of scoring a goal, then I can see another 3 points lost.
These are 3 Points that we cannot afford to lose. If the worst comes to worst, then I will settle for a point, only if we can guarantee 3 points against Spurs in the Home game on the 31st January.
Spot on... we really can't afford to drop 3points, winning is a habit so is losing..
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Posted: Tue Jan 20th, 2009 04:07 pm |
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When we got that drubbing off Newcastle Allardyce knew the weaknesses of most of the team which played that day. On top of that we put in a dire performance.
Now there are only 4 of his regulars left and I'd be tempted to leave Nolan in particular out as with his card record this season Allardyce will tell his players how to wind him up.
Maybe even leave Davies out as well, available numbers permitting. Allardyce will have little mental advantage left then.
Megson needs to fire the team up for this one as Allardyce will certainly fire up Blackburn.
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