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Posted: Wed Jan 28th, 2009 09:05 pm |
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christiep wrote: shut ip billy, negative negative negative.. we haven't won for more than 6 games now and you deem tonight acceptable. We SHOULD be beating teams around us in the table if we want to stay up. A point would have been acceptable if we came into this game on the back of a few wins but that isn't the case. Stop excusing the team. 2-0 up against blackburn with less than 30 mins to go, a draw isn't good enough. I really worry about my team at the moment but one thing i won't do is constantly make excuses for the P**s poor showings of late!!!
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Andy Walsh wrote:
Cowdrill wrote: Cowdrill wrote: 2-0 up and fully, fully deserved
weve outplayed them totally
only way to balls this up now is if we start to sit back and defend for the last 45m
well thats nicely balls-up
thanks Gaz
utter disgrace in the 2nd half - pitiful
Megson wasn't asking them to defend like that. Urging them to get forward. See my posting above
If thats the case then the problem would probably have been ball retention and getting penned in. (didn't see the game; but i've seen enough this season to know that will have played a part)
I might be wrong but i can imagine our second half 'defensive' performance consisted mainly of hoofing the ball up the pitch and giving it away constantly.
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Posted: Wed Jan 28th, 2009 09:09 pm |
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Cowdrill wrote: Billy Bradshaw wrote: Cowdrill wrote: Cowdrill wrote: 2-0 up and fully, fully deserved
weve outplayed them totally
only way to balls this up now is if we start to sit back and defend for the last 45m
well thats nicely balls-up
thanks Gaz
utter disgrace in the 2nd half - pitiful
What is it about you recently? Been taking idiot pills?
Megson wasn't telling them to defend. Maybe they saw Big Sam and thought he was managing them again?
in that case you admit he has absolutely no control over his players and is unable to get his tactics over to them?
poor management
It happens - it was a derby game for heaven's sake. Was it poor management by Sam when we threw away a 2-0 lead at home to Blackburn? Liverpool threw away a lead tonight as did Everton.
I've played in games when we were two up at half time. It's a dangerous lead.
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christiep wrote: shut ip billy, negative negative negative.. we haven't won for more than 6 games now and you deem tonight acceptable. We SHOULD be beating teams around us in the table if we want to stay up. A point would have been acceptable if we came into this game on the back of a few wins but that isn't the case. Stop excusing the team. 2-0 up against blackburn with less than 30 mins to go, a draw isn't good enough. I really worry about my team at the moment but one thing i won't do is constantly make excuses for the P**s poor showings of late!!!
f*ck me....what have you been drinking? I'm talking UP the point we got, you're talking it down......and I'm being negative???
You say a point would have been acceptable if we'd have come into this with a few wins??? We hadn't scored for f*cking ages and tonight we scored two!! We went into this game in lousy form and we got a point.
The only reason people are pissed off is because we were 2 up.
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Posted: Wed Jan 28th, 2009 09:11 pm |
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| im sorry if i offended anyone with that post but im just fed up of some bolton fans being treated like s**t. Megson ( the guy who has a plan A but nothing more than that) is so clueless! This is the man who has been in charge of the largest transfer kitty in the last year that anyone at the this club has received yet here we are playing dredful, negative, defence football- the funny this is we actually can't defend comeptantly either!!
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le god wrote: Andy Walsh wrote:
Cowdrill wrote: Cowdrill wrote: 2-0 up and fully, fully deserved
weve outplayed them totally
only way to balls this up now is if we start to sit back and defend for the last 45m
well thats nicely balls-up
thanks Gaz
utter disgrace in the 2nd half - pitiful
Megson wasn't asking them to defend like that. Urging them to get forward. See my posting above
If thats the case then the problem would probably have been ball retention and getting penned in. (didn't see the game; but i've seen enough this season to know that will have played a part)
I might be wrong but i can imagine our second half 'defensive' performance consisted mainly of hoofing the ball up the pitch and giving it away constantly.
Buty if we'd been 2-0 down, it would have been a great performance. Not saying it wasn't pants in the second half but the first half seems to have been us playing like we know we can. You should have seen enough of Bolton this season to know we can get it down and play a good passing game as well.
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Posted: Wed Jan 28th, 2009 09:12 pm |
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Andy Walsh wrote: Cowdrill wrote: Billy Bradshaw wrote: Cowdrill wrote: Cowdrill wrote: 2-0 up and fully, fully deserved
weve outplayed them totally
only way to balls this up now is if we start to sit back and defend for the last 45m
well thats nicely balls-up
thanks Gaz
utter disgrace in the 2nd half - pitiful
What is it about you recently? Been taking idiot pills?
Megson wasn't telling them to defend. Maybe they saw Big Sam and thought he was managing them again?
in that case you admit he has absolutely no control over his players and is unable to get his tactics over to them?
poor management
It happens - it was a derby game for heaven's sake. Was it poor management by Sam when we threw away a 2-0 lead at home to Blackburn? Liverpool threw away a lead tonight as did Everton.
I've played in games when we were two up at half time. It's a dangerous lead.
i know
but once again from dominating a game - we offered absolutely nothing in the second half
nothing
yet we know this is stupid and we end up throwing points down the bog
when will they learn to kill teams off? in the Championship at this rate
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Posted: Wed Jan 28th, 2009 09:13 pm |
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Cowdrill wrote: in that case you admit he has absolutely no control over his players and is unable to get his tactics over to them?
poor management
Cowdrill - "What's that over there".
Billy - "It's the woods"
Cowdrill - "Oh yes, of course it is. i couldn't see it because the trees were in the way".
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christiep wrote: im sorry if i offended anyone with that post but im just fed up of some bolton fans being treated like s**t. Megson ( the guy who has a plan A but nothing more than that) is so clueless! This is the man who has been in charge of the largest transfer kitty in the last year that anyone at the this club has received yet here we are playing dredful, negative, defence football- the funny this is we actually can't defend comeptantly either!!
BUT as I have said the first half shows how we can play.
Megson has a plan A and it's playing good football but we're only seeing it in patches at the moment.
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Billy Bradshaw wrote: Cowdrill wrote: in that case you admit he has absolutely no control over his players and is unable to get his tactics over to them?
poor management
Cowdrill - "What's that over there".
Billy - "It's the woods"
Cowdrill - "Oh yes, of course it is. i couldn't see it because the trees were in the way".
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Posted: Wed Jan 28th, 2009 09:15 pm |
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christiep wrote: im sorry if i offended anyone with that post but im just fed up of some bolton fans being treated like s**t. Megson ( the guy who has a plan A but nothing more than that) is so clueless! This is the man who has been in charge of the largest transfer kitty in the last year that anyone at the this club has received yet here we are playing dredful, negative, defence football- the funny this is we actually can't defend comeptantly either!!
Our defence at home is better than Arsenal's.
I hate to say it, but if Big Sam was still in charge, he would have ordered all 10 outfield players back into our half after the first goal.
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| Still need to bring in people who can get their feet on the ball in the middle of the park; reading reviews seems like our midfield was cream crackered in the second half.
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Posted: Wed Jan 28th, 2009 09:16 pm |
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Cowdrill wrote: Andy Walsh wrote: Cowdrill wrote: Billy Bradshaw wrote: Cowdrill wrote: Cowdrill wrote: 2-0 up and fully, fully deserved
weve outplayed them totally
only way to balls this up now is if we start to sit back and defend for the last 45m
well thats nicely balls-up
thanks Gaz
utter disgrace in the 2nd half - pitiful
What is it about you recently? Been taking idiot pills?
Megson wasn't telling them to defend. Maybe they saw Big Sam and thought he was managing them again?
in that case you admit he has absolutely no control over his players and is unable to get his tactics over to them?
poor management
It happens - it was a derby game for heaven's sake. Was it poor management by Sam when we threw away a 2-0 lead at home to Blackburn? Liverpool threw away a lead tonight as did Everton.
I've played in games when we were two up at half time. It's a dangerous lead.
i know
but once again from dominating a game - we offered absolutely nothing in the second half
nothing
yet we know this is stupid and we end up throwing points down the bog
when will they learn to kill teams off? in the Championship at this rate
ARGGGHHHH
We should ban posting for about two days after we don't win games just so everyone can settle down a bit.
In the cold light of day, we got a decent point away from home and we've shown plenty of gumption to show that we'll start to move up the table and away from West Brom, Boro and Stoke (who are now my favourites to go down!)
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Posted: Wed Jan 28th, 2009 09:17 pm |
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Billy Bradshaw wrote: christiep wrote: im sorry if i offended anyone with that post but im just fed up of some bolton fans being treated like s**t. Megson ( the guy who has a plan A but nothing more than that) is so clueless! This is the man who has been in charge of the largest transfer kitty in the last year that anyone at the this club has received yet here we are playing dredful, negative, defence football- the funny this is we actually can't defend comeptantly either!!
Our defence at home is better than Arsenal's.
Arsenal have won 7 (SEVEN) home matches!
i dont need to remind you of the shocking number we have won
clues: it nearly February and weve won 3
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| why can't we score though? The reason is megson hasn't brought in much quality in the final third. I hate to be negative but its the truth. I was reading the article about the new lad from wolves we have bought! I remember one bit said "he can learn from the quality we already have at this football club". What quality have we got? because i sure as hell don't see it when i watch the whites. Watching bolton these days is a chore, its not enjoyable anymore. Megson will milk everything he can to stay at this club. Except from our excellent nov, we have had a dredful season with some of the worst football ive seen in ages!!
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Billy Bradshaw wrote: christiep wrote: im sorry if i offended anyone with that post but im just fed up of some bolton fans being treated like s**t. Megson ( the guy who has a plan A but nothing more than that) is so clueless! This is the man who has been in charge of the largest transfer kitty in the last year that anyone at the this club has received yet here we are playing dredful, negative, defence football- the funny this is we actually can't defend comeptantly either!!
Our defence at home is better than Arsenal's.
I hate to say it, but if Big Sam was still in charge, he would have ordered all 10 outfield players back into our half after the first goal.
Yes but our attack is abolutely appaling at home, we can only manage to grab a few goals away.
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| i don't understand why some people are so bitter about Sam Alladyce. He's definately 10 times the manager Megson is plus we play equally as bad football under megson. Kick and run. Not a single midfielder of ours has the ability to get it down on the floor and play good football!
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Posted: Wed Jan 28th, 2009 09:26 pm |
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christiep wrote:
i don't understand why some people are so bitter about Sam Alladyce. He's definately 10 times the manager Megson is plus we play equally as bad football under megson. Kick and run. Not a single midfielder of ours has the ability to get it down on the floor and play good football!
You've managed to perfectly sum up why we have the problems we do. It's called passing; composure.... in other words class.
the more class players you've got the higher up the league you will be; the league looks about right at the moment.
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christiep wrote: Not a single midfielder of ours has the ability to get it down on the floor and play good football!
one of the most insipid midfields ive ever witnessed in over 20 years of watching Bolton
its dreadful
p.s. did our new star signing even get a touch? cos i may have misssed it!
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jackbwfc wrote: Billy Bradshaw wrote: christiep wrote: im sorry if i offended anyone with that post but im just fed up of some bolton fans being treated like s**t. Megson ( the guy who has a plan A but nothing more than that) is so clueless! This is the man who has been in charge of the largest transfer kitty in the last year that anyone at the this club has received yet here we are playing dredful, negative, defence football- the funny this is we actually can't defend comeptantly either!!
Our defence at home is better than Arsenal's.
I hate to say it, but if Big Sam was still in charge, he would have ordered all 10 outfield players back into our half after the first goal.
Yes but our attack is abolutely appaling at home, we can only manage to grab a few goals away.
I agree. That's what's really hurt us this season. Not our defence....but that we can't score for toffee most of the time.
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Posted: Wed Jan 28th, 2009 09:28 pm |
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| By the way......the pundits on Sky have spent the last half hour ripping in to Liverpool for scoring a goal and then trying to defend a 1 goal lead. It even happens to teams challenging for the title.
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| indeed- people always tell me "yea but you need to spend lots of in money in order to play football like that". Well how much more money does Megson want!!?? 35 mill spend and not even a single midfielder of ours has the ability to gather some composure and pass and move. Discraceful
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Billy Bradshaw wrote:
jackbwfc wrote: Billy Bradshaw wrote: christiep wrote: im sorry if i offended anyone with that post but im just fed up of some bolton fans being treated like s**t. Megson ( the guy who has a plan A but nothing more than that) is so clueless! This is the man who has been in charge of the largest transfer kitty in the last year that anyone at the this club has received yet here we are playing dredful, negative, defence football- the funny this is we actually can't defend comeptantly either!!
Our defence at home is better than Arsenal's.
I hate to say it, but if Big Sam was still in charge, he would have ordered all 10 outfield players back into our half after the first goal.
Yes but our attack is abolutely appaling at home, we can only manage to grab a few goals away.
I agree. That's what's really hurt us this season. Not our defence....but that we can't score for toffee most of the time.
Forget defense and attack. Theres another area on the pitch which contributes to both and is the reason why we can't push on in the league.
its the midfield.
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| i think another signing or so would be nice, but megson needs to get moving
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christiep wrote: why can't we score though?
Wasn't the score 2-2? 
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| oh lets be clever- 2 in like 7 games- look at the big picture matey!
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Bolton boss Gary Megson:
We're bitterly disappointed, we were two-nil up at half time and cruising, I can't remember a shot from the opposition.
But the game changed when Roque Santa Cruz and Tugay came on. They had the momentum and we didn't deal with it, we ran out of steam.
Three of our last four games were against Arsenal, Liverpool and Man Utd and a lot of teams have still got to play them. One or two sides will implode, we have to make sure we're not one of them.
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"When forced to defend, Bolton manager Gary Megson ensured there were nearly always 10 men behind the ball, and from the two attacks that culminated in the goals, they took advantage of shocking defending."
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christiep wrote: oh lets be clever- 2 in like 7 games- look at the big picture matey!
Which is why, in the cold light of day, any point away from home (when we also score two goals after a drought) is a good point.
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le god wrote: Bolton boss Gary Megson:
We're bitterly disappointed, we were two-nil up at half time and cruising, I can't remember a shot from the opposition.
But the game changed when Roque Santa Cruz and Tugay came on. They had the momentum and we didn't deal with it, we ran out of steam.
Three of our last four games were against Arsenal, Liverpool and Man Utd and a lot of teams have still got to play them. One or two sides will implode, we have to make sure we're not one of them.
I wish Gary Smegson would implode....
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