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Posted: Thu Jan 29th, 2009 08:21 am |
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| so why are the players ignoring the managers instructions?He,s the boss they have to do what he say,s,so whats wrong here.
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Posted: Thu Jan 29th, 2009 08:28 am |
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Cowdrill wrote: 2-0 up and fully, fully deserved
weve outplayed them totally
only way to balls this up now is if we start to sit back and defend for the last 45m
Visionary - if you can see it why can't he?
We did indeed outplay them first half but then 3 out of 10 is better than 1 out of 10
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Posted: Thu Jan 29th, 2009 08:38 am |
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Rationally, a draw was a much better result for you than us - you needed to end your losing streak and score a goal, we were at home, unbeaten in 6 in all competitions and had only conceded 2 in that time. Yet because of how events unfolded, we were buoyant at the final whistle whilst you were yelling abuse at your own manager.
I think some of you have summed up how I saw the match - although you didn't play well in the first half, we were that bad we deserved to be two down. From 15 minutes in, I was yelling in vain for us to get the ball down and pass it around instead of hoofing balls forward for your defenders to pick off.
Fortunately for us, Allardyce remembered that he'd swapped sides at half time, and got us to do exactly what was needed. Once we started playing the ball around on the deck, it just became a question of whether we could take the chances to get level and maybe even win the match.
I think there were some bizarre decisions by the officials during the match, but they were all around the centre of the park - summed up when the ref awarded you a throw-in whilst one of your defenders was cursing himself for knocking the ball out. However, I think they got the key ones right - Makakula was level for your first goal, the replays show Santa Cruz controlled the ball with his chest before the penalty, Jaaskelainen shouldn't have been sent off because Santa Cruz took the ball wide of the goal and allowed other defenders to get back, and the Samba 'handball' incident mentioned above couldn't be given even though his arm was up, as the ball was kicked straight at it from close range.
Anyway, it turned into a good derby match, I hope we're both still in the division to do the same next year...
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Posted: Thu Jan 29th, 2009 08:53 am |
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last night before the game i would of taken a draw, and of course i was dissapointed to see a 2 nil lead thrown away, but what really got up my nose more than anything was this
2 nil up a guy 4 rows in front of me turned round ans started the chant "ginger mourinho" 2-2 and he was calling for his head with a chant "megson out" i had enough i said how can you be so fickle you arent calling for the heads of any the players he said i've been a S.T holder for ten years who are you i said i've been a ST holder for 15 years, so whats your point,
my point is i was arguing with a 40+ man im 21 but there are some fans who need to do some serious growing up.
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Posted: Thu Jan 29th, 2009 09:32 am |
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Frandsen08 wrote: last night before the game i would of taken a draw, and of course i was dissapointed to see a 2 nil lead thrown away, but what really got up my nose more than anything was this
2 nil up a guy 4 rows in front of me turned round ans started the chant "ginger mourinho" 2-2 and he was calling for his head with a chant "megson out" i had enough i said how can you be so fickle you arent calling for the heads of any the players he said i've been a S.T holder for ten years who are you i said i've been a ST holder for 15 years, so whats your point,
my point is i was arguing with a 40+ man im 21 but there are some fans who need to do some serious growing up.
Spot on.
It would have been better for him to keep quiet at 2-0 up over megson same as it would have been at 2-2. It just makes him look thick.
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Posted: Thu Jan 29th, 2009 09:40 am |
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Bolton fans fickle, no I will not have it...
The Bolton players know they are in a relegation dogfight, and when players get into that mindset anything can happen, they are playing in fear and that is when teams drop deep and allow the other team space to build up momentum. GM can do little about that especially in the 2nd half he can shout and wave his arms but the players are litterely scared to death of being out of position and conceding so they drop deep, ironically this is probably the worst thing they could do. In the past regimes we have had 250 sports scientists getting inside their heads now we have Shiela and her cups of tea and scones.
Somehow GM has to take the fear out of their game, that is why he gets the big bucks, we as fans have a part to play similar to last season...
We when attending games have to believe everything in the garden is rosy and really cheer everything positive and bite our tongues when the players make a mistake, only then will they be the progressive team we want them to be.
We really need a signing to brighten the place up and the Spuds game is bigger now.
To be fair I would have taken a point, and scoring was a huge bonus now we have stopped the losing run we could do with a couple of wins (pretty obvious I know)
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Posted: Thu Jan 29th, 2009 11:10 am |
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Red White and Blue wrote: Im tired of all the negativity. You guys should just choose another team to support. Gary Megson is doing a good job. Half of you have no loyalty.
I don't mean to be funny or start an 'I am a better fan than you' argument with what I'm going to say, but the people who have posted this 'negativity' are the ones who actually went to the match. I sat in god-awful rush hour traffic for over two hours to get from Leeds to Blackburn when it should usually take 45 minutes, had to miss a Uni lesson and a night out to get to know my coursemates better, and when you turn up to the match and see the way we played last night, it can really piss you off.
Frandsen08 wrote: 2 nil up a guy 4 rows in front of me turned round ans started the chant "ginger mourinho" 2-2 and he was calling for his head with a chant "megson out" i had enough i said how can you be so fickle you arent calling for the heads of any the players he said i've been a S.T holder for ten years who are you i said i've been a ST holder for 15 years, so whats your point,
my point is i was arguing with a 40+ man im 21 but there are some fans who need to do some serious growing up.
You didn't happen to be sat around the row 28 seat 50-odd area did you? That was my idiotic mate with the chants. I proceeded to slap him round the head a few times after it.
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Howfen White wrote:
Red White and Blue wrote: Im tired of all the negativity. You guys should just choose another team to support. Gary Megson is doing a good job. Half of you have no loyalty.
I don't mean to be funny or start an 'I am a better fan than you' argument with what I'm going to say, but the people who have posted this 'negativity' are the ones who actually went to the match. I sat in god-awful rush hour traffic for over two hours to get from Leeds to Blackburn when it should usually take 45 minutes, had to miss a Uni lesson and a night out to get to know my coursemates better, and when you turn up to the match and see the way we played last night, it can really piss you off.
Frandsen08 wrote: 2 nil up a guy 4 rows in front of me turned round ans started the chant "ginger mourinho" 2-2 and he was calling for his head with a chant "megson out" i had enough i said how can you be so fickle you arent calling for the heads of any the players he said i've been a S.T holder for ten years who are you i said i've been a ST holder for 15 years, so whats your point,
my point is i was arguing with a 40+ man im 21 but there are some fans who need to do some serious growing up.
You didn't happen to be sat around the row 28 seat 50-odd area did you? That was my idiotic mate with the chants. I proceeded to slap him round the head a few times after it.
yeah i was but this guy was on his own
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Posted: Thu Jan 29th, 2009 12:00 pm |
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Megson's blast back at fans in full
Megson's tirade
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Posted: Thu Jan 29th, 2009 12:01 pm |
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posted here as it seemed relevant:
Gary Megson has launched a blistering and sustained attack on his own supporters, branding them 'pathetic' and questioning their intelligence for the way they have treated him since he took charge of the Premier League club.
The Bolton manager has had a difficult relationship with fans since succeeding Sammy Lee at the Reebok last season. Megson, however, suffered a new low at Ewood Park on Wednesday nightwhen visiting supporters subjected him to vicious personal abuse after Bolton squandered a two-goal lead against their bitter rivals and had to settle for a draw.
Despite saving Bolton from relegation last season, supporters have still not taken to him and remain unconvinced by his playing style and credentials for success.
Megson has finally lost patience after admitting he will never win them over but admits the abuse is also hated by the players and is contributing towards their struggle to avoid relegation.
In an outspoken attack that is sure to widen the chasm between himself and the supporters, Megson said: "I am disappointed in it.
"The supporters at this club have made their feelings known about myself from day one. Each time it's not gone well for us they do it again. The players dislike it and I dislike it.
"Their feelings for me are well-documented and are regularly made apparent. My feelings about them need to stay private. When the fans are slaughtering me and saying what they are saying, it reflects on what the players are doing. So they have their thoughts on it too.
"It makes the players angry, but we've had to cope with it for a long time. Their feelings have been made very obvious in terms of what they said.
"It's a load of nonsense. I wouldn't say they are fickle because I've had it from day one - most managers get a honeymoon period.
"Look at Sam [Allardyce]. He's not been there long but they were 2-0 down at half-time and hadn't even come close to our goal but there's no kind of reaction like that.
"I've had to cope with it for a long time. I don't like, I think it's pathetic.
"Myself and my players have our own thoughts about the fans, but we'll keep them in the dressing room. I really believe it is having an adverse effect on the team's performance.
"A lot of teams can be viewed as a few points off the top few but also in relegation trouble - of which we're one.
"There are clubs who are down there who have spent £70-£90 million but are below us.
"I don't hear the same reaction from them. You have to wonder about the intelligence of these people – it has to be heard to be believed to be honest.
"The reaction to myself is absolutely astounding. As a football club and as a dressing room, we have to try and keep that negativity away from what we need to try and do. Will I ever win them over? No, no chance.
"I took this club further than it's ever been in Europe, I kept them up after having five points from 10 games, I've taken the wage bill down.
"I haven't spent a lot of money in doing that. I think it works out at £2.5m. Others have spent around £90m.
"If your face doesn't fit, it doesn't fit. You have to accept that. The players, myself and my coaching staff accept it. We are as one. We have to get on with it.
"If people think that's helpful, that's up to them. Im sure we can't do anything about it. We're having to cope with this atmosphere which is hostile and very, very difficult for everyone."
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Posted: Thu Jan 29th, 2009 12:08 pm |
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the people who booed probably were singing ginger mourinho wernt you bullet???
i feel sorry for GM he saved us from relegation and im grateful for that some of te fans need to remember bad times when we were in the lower divisions
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Posted: Thu Jan 29th, 2009 12:24 pm |
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Liam wrote: posted here as it seemed relevant:
Gary Megson has launched a blistering and sustained attack on his own supporters, branding them 'pathetic' and questioning their intelligence for the way they have treated him since he took charge of the Premier League club.
The Bolton manager has had a difficult relationship with fans since succeeding Sammy Lee at the Reebok last season. Megson, however, suffered a new low at Ewood Park on Wednesday nightwhen visiting supporters subjected him to vicious personal abuse after Bolton squandered a two-goal lead against their bitter rivals and had to settle for a draw.
Despite saving Bolton from relegation last season, supporters have still not taken to him and remain unconvinced by his playing style and credentials for success.
Megson has finally lost patience after admitting he will never win them over but admits the abuse is also hated by the players and is contributing towards their struggle to avoid relegation.
In an outspoken attack that is sure to widen the chasm between himself and the supporters, Megson said: "I am disappointed in it.
"The supporters at this club have made their feelings known about myself from day one. Each time it's not gone well for us they do it again. The players dislike it and I dislike it.
"Their feelings for me are well-documented and are regularly made apparent. My feelings about them need to stay private. When the fans are slaughtering me and saying what they are saying, it reflects on what the players are doing. So they have their thoughts on it too.
"It makes the players angry, but we've had to cope with it for a long time. Their feelings have been made very obvious in terms of what they said.
"It's a load of nonsense. I wouldn't say they are fickle because I've had it from day one - most managers get a honeymoon period.
"Look at Sam [Allardyce]. He's not been there long but they were 2-0 down at half-time and hadn't even come close to our goal but there's no kind of reaction like that.
"I've had to cope with it for a long time. I don't like, I think it's pathetic.
"Myself and my players have our own thoughts about the fans, but we'll keep them in the dressing room. I really believe it is having an adverse effect on the team's performance.
"A lot of teams can be viewed as a few points off the top few but also in relegation trouble - of which we're one.
"There are clubs who are down there who have spent £70-£90 million but are below us.
"I don't hear the same reaction from them. You have to wonder about the intelligence of these people – it has to be heard to be believed to be honest.
"The reaction to myself is absolutely astounding. As a football club and as a dressing room, we have to try and keep that negativity away from what we need to try and do. Will I ever win them over? No, no chance.
"I took this club further than it's ever been in Europe, I kept them up after having five points from 10 games, I've taken the wage bill down.
"I haven't spent a lot of money in doing that. I think it works out at £2.5m. Others have spent around £90m.
"If your face doesn't fit, it doesn't fit. You have to accept that. The players, myself and my coaching staff accept it. We are as one. We have to get on with it.
"If people think that's helpful, that's up to them. Im sure we can't do anything about it. We're having to cope with this atmosphere which is hostile and very, very difficult for everyone."
well said that man!!
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Posted: Thu Jan 29th, 2009 12:31 pm |
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Many of the fans joining in those chants probably aren't old enough to remember the grim years between 1980 and 1992. The seasons 2003/4 to 2006/7 set high expectations, which if younger fans can be bothered to look back over any of the BWFC history books, rarely last that long for the club .
The fans go too far with the insults; Megson has probably gone way OTT with his retort. Either way, not good for the team's morale, and not likely to help getting decent players in.
Paying fans are all entitled to criticise poor performances but it is too much too often at Bolton.
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Posted: Thu Jan 29th, 2009 12:39 pm |
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This is ridiculous, even if his claims of fan abuse are true, such an attack on fans will only lead to more abuse.
It is very childish, we call him so he calls us back. 
He didn't even mention that it is a minority of fans who give him abuse, as i have rarely heard abuse towards him at the reebok.
He seriously cannot be thinking that such an attack on his supporters will gain him any credentials whatsoever.
Expect an extremely violent and hostile atmosphere at the Reebok on Saturday.
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Posted: Thu Jan 29th, 2009 12:58 pm |
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Megson is absolutely correct in everything he says...
Has he had a raw deal? Undoubtedly.
Has he done a good job since he came? Probably.
Will it make a difference? I doubt it.
At the end of the day results are all important. If we'd held onto the 2 goal lead, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Need to start winning Gary. Thats what will make us love you (within reason)
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Posted: Thu Jan 29th, 2009 01:03 pm |
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| Whether you like megson or not. that is gutting to read to be fair. i don't feel good reading that.
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Posted: Thu Jan 29th, 2009 01:10 pm |
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jackbwfc wrote: This is ridiculous, even if his claims of fan abuse are true, such an attack on fans will only lead to more abuse.
It is very childish, we call him so he calls us back.
He didn't even mention that it is a minority of fans who give him abuse, as i have rarely heard abuse towards him at the reebok.
He seriously cannot be thinking that such an attack on his supporters will gain him any credentials whatsoever.
Expect an extremely violent and hostile atmosphere at the Reebok on Saturday.
I see where you're coming from on this. It would be best if he said nothing about it. But if he feels that he's had this since day 1 and if he feels that it's affecting the dressing room.....then he's only human and perhaps it's just got to him?
Why is it childish? Isn't it childish in the first place to name call? Why should he be the bigger man and say nothing? Taking criticism is part of the job, but there's nothing in the 'rules' that say he has to say nothing.
It could be a minority of fans, but perhaps it's the minority that sit around the dugout?
Gain him any credentials?? You mean he was so liked before and now he's gone and spoiled it?
Why should there be a hostile atmosphere at the Reebok? Which bit of 'it's affecting the players' didn't you get?
So he calls sections of the fans idiots then? Tell me......what would you call a fan who one minute is chanting 'Ginger Mourinho' (silly chant to start with) and the next calling him a w*nker? I think 'Idiot' is appropriate?
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jackbwfc wrote: This is ridiculous, even if his claims of fan abuse are true, such an attack on fans will only lead to more abuse.
It is very childish, we call him so he calls us back.
He didn't even mention that it is a minority of fans who give him abuse, as i have rarely heard abuse towards him at the reebok.
He seriously cannot be thinking that such an attack on his supporters will gain him any credentials whatsoever.
Expect an extremely violent and hostile atmosphere at the Reebok on Saturday.
it's not a minority, not anymore
the minority of fans are those that praise him for keeping us up last season, see what he's trying to do, and see change on the horizon - in short, people like myself and Andy
the majority would be happy to lynch the poor guy...
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Posted: Thu Jan 29th, 2009 01:11 pm |
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Don't know why the are called Bolton Supporters. IMO, It is either "Live with them or Leave them". One or the Other.
Maybe why "Angry Megos", is an anagram of "Gary Megson"
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I've waited til I've calmed down from being at last nights game before I posted, but here are my observations:-
As said Megson did tell the players to get forward, but only after Blackburn missed the penalty and the fans started to shout "Attack" - Previous he'd been shouting at them to stay back.
Secondly I thought the abuse was a bit over the top and as usual led by a bunch of chavs who think its funny just to start chants rather than actually get behind your team.
Although saying this, it was blatantly obvious to everyone of the fans present that us sitting back, defending our 2-0 lead was not going to work, Makakula was far too tired in the second half after having a really good first half to hold the ball up properly and when he did there was no Bolton player within 30yds of him to offer some support. He should have been substituted sooner, which also brings me onto the fact that why has nobody else mentioned Megsons comments about our players running out of steam, why can't our players seem to run for 90 minutes without getting knackered, what the hell are they doing in training?????? It never used to be like that, its only since Megson came in that the stamina has dropped, this is possibly the casue of us conceding so many late goals, which also asks the question about what are the back room satff doing to keep the players fully fit?
I've got to say that before the match I would have taken a draw, but having come away from the ground last night felt like we'd lost. Megson is a one trick pony with his one playing style, the only time we changed how we play was against Portsmouth when we hammered them for the first 30 minutes then resorted back to the norm and sat deep agian and risked losing the game, I'm also fed up with his lack of ambition against the top 4 teams, constantly "Bigging"them up before we play them and basically rolling over and dying for them.
And finally after Megsons comments about the fans, i think the relationship between the fans and the manager is now untenable and the only way forward is to chaneg managament, I've always thought he was the worng choice from his appointment but still gave him the benfit of the doubt, but now its gone too far and he has to go along with Gartside who should bite the bullet in getting it wrong twice now with his choice of manager.
I also think the so called bid for veloso is a smokescreen as they knew they had no real chance in getting him but could then say "Well at least we bid for him".
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Sam Allardyce built the team over 8 years. He gained the respect of the crowd and we always defended him against the criticism of others. He was blessed with a chairman who asserted that no matter what, Sam had a 10 year contract and he wouldn't be sacked. that is virtually unheard of in the modern game. he brought in some great players.....which incidentally would be impossible to replicate, because those days are long gone. He also bought some duffers, but we forgave him, because on balance, he did well. We all begged for better football, but most of us decided that we wouldn't sacrifice our PL place for it.
The season Megson came in, we had 5 points from 10 games and the bookies were probably close to closing the book on a Bolton relegation. He kept us up and we had a decent run in Europe. He made what many thought were the right decisions regarding Europe.....but it backfired spectacularly.
He's brought players in on lower wages and for a net spend of next to nothing. Most of his signings have been good ones, with the odd duffer. He too play unattractive football, but at times, he clearly wants to go forward when he can. In patches, we've played far better football than I ever saw under Big Sam, but those patches are few and far between.
But let's just say that Megson keeps us up again this season? Why not do as we did with Sam Allardyce and back him by giving him the time to build in the long term?
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GM was on a hiding to nothing taking this job, many had made their decision on him before he took the job, expecting Arsene Wenger to step in was IMHO optimistic. We got GM from not much of a short list could have been worse could have been better.
He has had a rough ride, I am not a massive fan but as he leads my team I want to be fair all I really want is for him to be positive. But I can't see me booing him, I remember the years of Goerge Mulhall, Stan Anderson, John McGovern when we really were poor. I don't remember booing them but God knows some of those times were dire.
I am not happy GM has decided to splash his feelings in the press and can only see this as the beginning of a very uncomfortable end, clearly those that want him out hve started to get to him, and this Rafa style response will comeback to haunt him, alas I fear this will effect the players which is what we don't want it will all end in tears.
I want Bolton to be succesful and therefore GM needs to be succesful... So be more positive, but I think it will now just be a matter of weeks before they nail him, and tragically we will be in a real dog fight to stay up.
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Posted: Thu Jan 29th, 2009 01:23 pm |
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NormidTerrace wrote: At least he's got the balls to speak his mind. I like the guy. We had two seasons of avoiding relegation when we first got promoted, and I think Megson's had a big job rebuilding the team. Maybe we should let him carry out his 10 year plan too.
yay! another supporter!!
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| Forgot to mention in my last post that in the last 10 games Megson has got the same amount of points that Sammy Lee did when he got sacked, just a point to think about!!!!!
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think about who we've played in the last 10 games
Arsenal, Chelsea, United, Villa...these are all teams fighting for the Champions League and the title, not many are coming away from those games with points
last night we played Blackburn - they're in the same situation as us; did you really expect them to roll over and die? surely you know from 3 seasons fighting relegation that teams at the bottom generally fight till the end, and resort to desperation tactics? their's were to throw everything, including the kitchen sink, at our defence - correspondingly, ours was to sink further and further back in the face of such onslaught
and never once in the second half did i see Megson screaming at the players to get back
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Wigan White wrote: Forgot to mention in my last post that in the last 10 games Megson has got the same amount of points that Sammy Lee did when he got sacked, just a point to think about!!!!!
Did you also forget to Mention that the first 10 games for Sammy Lee was :-
Newcastle H 0
Fulham A 0
Portsmouth A 0
Reading H 3
Everton H 0
Spurs H 1
Derby A 1
Chelsea H 0
Arsenal A 0
Total 5 Points
Last 10 Games of Gary Megson
Boro A 3
Sunderland A 3
Chelsea H 0
Aston Villa A 0
Portsmouth H 3
Liverpool A 0
Wigan H 0
Arsenal A 0
Manchester Utd H 0
Blackburn A 1
Total 10 Points
If you want to state facts, then state them correctly.
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Billy Bradshaw
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Posted: Thu Jan 29th, 2009 01:38 pm |
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Wigan White wrote: Forgot to mention in my last post that in the last 10 games Megson has got the same amount of points that Sammy Lee did when he got sacked, just a point to think about!!!!!
How many points did Big Sam get in his last few months?
Oh sorry....that was ok because Sam gave us more success than we'd had for years.
We are a club that for years, punched above their weight. There are a number of reasons why we are falling further behind the rest. The big boys aren't scared of the Bolton bullies any more. The rich clubs are getting even richer and pricing us out of the market for even average players. The Djorkaeff's of this world now go to better clubs than Bolton.
Megson has a massive rebuilding job to do. he's started by lowering the wage bill and bringing in some decent players. For the first time since Allardyce got the job, we see a real prospect of young players finally breaking into the first team. He's got the balls to say what he thinks and he's also got the balls to go for players that some consider to be out of our range.
He goes for the Wolves lad and he's criticised for signing players of championship quality. He goes for Veloso and he's ridculed for going for players we've got no business trying to sign. Who should he be trying to sign then? Given time, he may just start to change the perception of the club, but it will take time.....years, not months. Changing managers means more comings and goings at the club....more rebuilding.....more internal strife.....and us sinking further into the crap. Who are you going to bring in? Brownie? Hull are sinking like a stone. I remember people touting Jewel......whatever happened to him? If you feel that it's ridiculous for us to be chasing Veloso, then it's just as ridiculous for us to be chasing a top class manager!!
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truewhite15
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Posted: Thu Jan 29th, 2009 01:41 pm |
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just a minor point - i assume those who are now, and who have always been, calling for Megson's toasted head on a pike would have preferred, say, Harry Redknapp? a manager proven at Premiership level?
Tottenham are still in the same mire as us, you know
and fyi, it takes more than 3 transfer windows, two of them being January ones, no less, to build a competitive team
Allardyce had, what, 6 before we were anywhere near the top half of the table?
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Posted: Thu Jan 29th, 2009 01:48 pm |
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truewhite15 wrote: just a minor point - i assume those who are now, and who have always been, calling for Megson's toasted head on a pike would have preferred, say, Harry Redknapp? a manager proven at Premiership level?
Tottenham are still in the same mire as us, you know
and fyi, it takes more than 3 transfer windows, two of them being January ones, no less, to build a competitive team
Allardyce had, what, 6 before we were anywhere near the top half of the table?
All good points, but i fear they will fall on deaf ears.
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