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 Posted: Tue Sep 1st, 2009 04:29 pm
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To be fair to Havoc it is harking back to the days of Fadiga.

Anyway, lets hope he can knock in a few goals.

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 Posted: Tue Sep 1st, 2009 04:30 pm
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GM will constantly play Klasnic either instead of Elmander or K.Davies in the current formation which will probably not suit him and he'll end up keeping a seat warm on the subs bench and bitching about the club on Soccer AM... there, I said it :D



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 Posted: Tue Sep 1st, 2009 04:32 pm
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so much for a decent CAM then.... and so much for Shittu & McCann being moved on.

Another roaring session in the transfer window :(

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 Posted: Tue Sep 1st, 2009 04:42 pm
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Happy with Klasnic, we can't do much more than that in terms of a striker but I would have liked another player, Att.mid or striker.

Ah well, we go with what we've got eh.

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 Posted: Tue Sep 1st, 2009 04:48 pm
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Quite surprised Ben Haim went to Pompey - always rated him when he was here, and I'd have like to see him and Cahill at the back. Still early I guess with Knight - but I know which I would have gone with.

Ah well.....

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 Posted: Tue Sep 1st, 2009 04:49 pm
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At least we should see how good he is on the 9th September, when England play Croatia.  Hopefully, will help him settle down, prior to our next match against Portsmouth.



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 Posted: Tue Sep 1st, 2009 04:54 pm
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Croatia tend to play with Eduardo, Mladen Petric and Ivica Olic upfront so don't know if we'll see him against England.

Nobody can moan when a lot of people expected nobody to come in.

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 Posted: Tue Sep 1st, 2009 05:01 pm
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I wonder if Megson considered taking Viduka? I reckon we are still a striker short and we could do with somebody with aerial presence who knows where the goal is if Davies gets injured. Free agent as well so we could still sign him.

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Philsfaxmachine wrote: I wonder if Megson considered taking Viduka? I reckon we are still a striker short and we could do with somebody with aerial presence who knows where the goal is if Davies gets injured. Free agent as well so we could still sign him.

Zenden is still a free.

I see Burnley have signed Nugent. At least we don't yet know if Klasnic is crap - we know that Nugent isn't very good!

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 Posted: Tue Sep 1st, 2009 05:12 pm
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am I happy? no, not really, of the reported £425m spent by the premier league 20 teams, Bolton spent the least with 6m.

Now if it was even between the 20 teams, there would have been an average of £21.25m spent each. I know it isn't equal but for a team that desperately NEEDED strengthening, 6m is a minuscule amount to spend.

Klasnic though is decent but won't be first choice in front of Elmander or Davies.



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Liam wrote: am I happy? no, not really, of the reported £425m spent by the premier league 20 teams, Bolton spent the least with 6m.

Now if it was even between the 20 teams, there would have been an average of £21.25m spent each. I know it isn't equal but for a team that desperately NEEDED strengthening, 6m is a minuscule amount to spend.

Klasnic though is decent but won't be first choice in front of Elmander or Davies.

Do the maths on the players we've signed and you'll see we've spent more than £6million.

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Liam wrote: am I happy? no, not really, of the reported £425m spent by the premier league 20 teams, Bolton spent the least with 6m.

Now if it was even between the 20 teams, there would have been an average of £21.25m spent each. I know it isn't equal but for a team that desperately NEEDED strengthening, 6m is a minuscule amount to spend.

Klasnic though is decent but won't be first choice in front of Elmander or Davies.

I think we actually spent over £10M but most of them were undisclosed (Davis - free, Knight -£4.5M, LCY - £2.2M, Ricketts - £2.5M and Robinson claims to have signed for £1M)

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 Posted: Tue Sep 1st, 2009 05:19 pm
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it depends.

Knight: 3m
Yong: 1.5m
Robinson: nowt paid yet, we're told it's a loan and no-one is sure.
Klasnic: Loan
Davis: Free
Sam Ricketts: 1.5m

3+1.5+1.5= 6m?

am I missing something or are we marking the players up like we do with Elmander and calling Ricketts and Yong 3m and Robinson 2m?



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 Posted: Tue Sep 1st, 2009 05:24 pm
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D1OUFY wrote: To be fair to Havoc it is harking back to the days of Fadiga.

Anyway, lets hope he can knock in a few goals.


To be fair "jokes" like that suck. Whatever the circumstance, imo.



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 Posted: Tue Sep 1st, 2009 05:30 pm
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"Ivan is a player who we have been tracking for quite a while," said manager Gary Megson.

"His goalscoring record is very good and he has an excellent pedigree at international level with Croatia and domestically in Europe."

"Which is why he will be getting the regulation two and a half minutes at the end of each game, instead of Riga"



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 Posted: Tue Sep 1st, 2009 06:09 pm
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Surely Riga is now seen as a mistake? If he couldn't get a game through a striker shortage and Academy players are picked ahead then he isn't thought of as a player worth keeping on the books?

Who would ideally have been cut from the books knowing full well they aren't going to be playing for Bolton baring a Swine Flu outbreak?

I can think of:
Hunt
Riga
Vaz Té
Joey O'Brien

Edit: jeez, the squad is paper thin looking at the Squad profiles!!!

1 Adam Bogdan Goalkeeper   2 Nicky Hunt Defender   3 Jlloyd Samuel Defender   4 Paul Robinson (on loan from WBA ) Defender   5 Gary Cahill Defender   6 Fabrice Muamba Midfielder   7 Matthew Taylor Midfielder   8 Joey O'Brien Defender   9 Johan Elmander Striker   11 Ricardo Gardner Midfielder   12 Zat Knight Defender   14 Kevin Davies Striker   15 Gretar Rafn Steinsson Defender   16 Mark Davies Midfielder   17 Mustapha Riga Striker   18 Samuel Ricketts Defender   19 Gavin McCann Midfielder   20 Ricardo Vaz Te Striker   21 Tamir Cohen Midfielder   22 Jussi Jaaskelainen Goalkeeper   23 Sean Davis Midfielder   24 Dan Shittu Defender   26 Ali Al Habsi Goalkeeper   27 Chung-Yong Lee Midfielder   30 Chris Basham Defender   31 Andrew O'Brien Defender   33 Daniel Ward  

Note on the official BWFC website "paul robinson, on loan from WBA"

Last edited on Tue Sep 1st, 2009 06:13 pm by Liam



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 Posted: Tue Sep 1st, 2009 06:15 pm
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As the late deals trickle through there is no word on any more signings for us. I'm sure there will be rumours over the next few days who the midfielder and the young player was that we failed to sign, assuming there ever was a midfielder and not just SSN nonsense like Kamara.



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 Posted: Tue Sep 1st, 2009 06:21 pm
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Cowdrill wrote:
"Ivan is a player who we have been tracking for quite a while," said manager Gary Megson.

"His goalscoring record is very good and he has an excellent pedigree at international level with Croatia and domestically in Europe."

"Which is why he will be getting the regulation two and a half minutes at the end of each game, instead of Riga"


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So there it is. After 2 months, 62 days and 1464 hours, 'it' has signed a striker who has been playing for an average French side and has had a serious operation on his kidneys.

Is this the approach the club is taking to move forward?? Is he going to be another Smolarek????

Utter shite!!! No ambition, imagination or any real concern that the club could quite easily be relegated this season. One or two injuries and were fcuked!!!!

'It' showed today that he has no clue!!!

I wish he would fcuk off now!!!!



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 Posted: Tue Sep 1st, 2009 06:36 pm
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I think a lot are being unfair on Klasnic. True, he might not be the player he was at Werder but I believe he will make an impact given opportunities and the right service (by service I mean not lumping it to his head). By this signing I can only assume that Megson wants to play differently as Klasnic certainly does not thrive off long balls. If he ends up being another Smolarek then the club will have let him and the fans down.



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 Posted: Tue Sep 1st, 2009 06:54 pm
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no-ones being harsh on Klasnic, he's a good player, not like Rasiak at least anyway. It's more the point of regardless of how good he is, he is back-up.

Whereas although striking back-up was needed, the point of focus should definately have been a creative attacking midfielder.



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Loftys Roar wrote: So there it is. After 2 months, 62 days and 1464 hours, 'it' has signed a striker who has been playing for an average French side and has had a serious operation on his kidneys.

Is this the approach the club is taking to move forward?? Is he going to be another Smolarek????

Utter shite!!! No ambition, imagination or any real concern that the club could quite easily be relegated this season. One or two injuries and were fcuked!!!!

'It' showed today that he has no clue!!!

I wish he would fcuk off now!!!!

So do I otherwise I think we are going down .

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hopefully the board will see sense soon and sack him.

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 Posted: Tue Sep 1st, 2009 07:05 pm
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the board are who decide the funds and the transfers, they need to have a look at themselves whilst they're at it.



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Liam wrote: the board are who decide the funds and the transfers, they need to have a look at themselves whilst they're at it.
Maybe they didnt want a manager who want be here for long spending all their money??:whoknows:



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craig bwfc wrote: hopefully the board will see sense soon and sack him.
no chance mate .tho everybody else wants him to go .

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BringBackBurndenPark wrote: Liam wrote: the board are who decide the funds and the transfers, they need to have a look at themselves whilst they're at it.
Maybe they didnt want a manager who want be here for long spending all their money??:whoknows:
that would make them more culpable, keeping a manager who they don't trust to run the club?



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Liam wrote: BringBackBurndenPark wrote: Liam wrote: the board are who decide the funds and the transfers, they need to have a look at themselves whilst they're at it.
Maybe they didnt want a manager who want be here for long spending all their money??:whoknows:
that would make them more culpable, keeping a manager who they don't trust to run the club?

What if there is no suitable replacement?



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 Posted: Tue Sep 1st, 2009 07:43 pm
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Klasnic was a very good player at Werder by the looks of it loved by the fans.

A very very very serious operation will certainly have taken its toll on his body and i've no doubt he is not the player he once was... who would be.

He had a "difficult" season at nantes they were relegated.

To be honest i don't see him playing a big part in the team but if he can chip in with maybe 5 goals he will be a decent loan.

Don't expect to see him on the pitch more than 20/25 minutes anyway. Barring injury of course in which case he will play second fiddle to gary cahil.

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 Posted: Tue Sep 1st, 2009 07:56 pm
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Liam wrote: am I happy? no, not really, of the reported £425m spent by the premier league 20 teams, Bolton spent the least with 6m.

Now if it was even between the 20 teams, there would have been an average of £21.25m spent each. I know it isn't equal but for a team that desperately NEEDED strengthening, 6m is a minuscule amount to spend.

Klasnic though is decent but won't be first choice in front of Elmander or Davies.


These stats are very skewed by Man City. If you take them out then you'll get to say £300m. Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea take up another £90m or so, which makes the average of the rest more like £14m.

Don't get me wrong, I would like us to have spent more, but with the exception of Robinson I'm relatively happy with the summer signings. We do have a bigger squad of senior players - I recognise others who say that there are a similar number of players due to loans ending, etc... - which has got to be an improvement. 

Am I disappointed that it was about 3 hours before the transfer window ended that we 'got' a striker - massively. Am I suprised - no. And we still haven't got a Premier League class player who can pass a through ball in the midfield.

I think we should take into account that attracting European players this season has been difficult for all English clubs because of the Euro and massive tax bill that comes with earning massive sums of money in England - that's why players have been going to Spain, or staying where they are.


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