| Author | Post |
|---|
Cromy
Member
|
Posted: Sat Mar 14th, 2009 10:55 pm |
|
http://redbullsports.blogspot.com/
live link if anyone interested
____________________
'This is only the beginning
Euro 2008 Joint Winner 2008
|
le god
Member
| Joined: | Mon Jan 10th, 2005 |
| Location: | . |
| Posts: | 10990 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sat Mar 14th, 2009 11:16 pm |
|
| Awesome! cheers!
|
Cromy
Member
|
Posted: Sat Mar 14th, 2009 11:31 pm |
|
| over because of a first round clash of heads, doctor stops fight
____________________
'This is only the beginning
Euro 2008 Joint Winner 2008
|
le god
Member
| Joined: | Mon Jan 10th, 2005 |
| Location: | . |
| Posts: | 10990 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sat Mar 14th, 2009 11:37 pm |
|
| Frustrating, Kahn looked on top for most of the fight though to be honest.
|
craig bwfc
Member
| Joined: | Mon Aug 11th, 2008 |
| Location: | United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 1491 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sat Mar 14th, 2009 11:55 pm |
|
| khan was absolutly fantastic an awsome performance dominated every round and his defence was superb as well just a brilliant all round perfomance.
|
Billy Bradshaw
Administrator
| Joined: | Mon Oct 4th, 2004 |
| Location: | United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 17267 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sat Mar 14th, 2009 11:57 pm |
|
At least we got 5 great rounds though. A bit disappointed in Barrera, I have to say. First of all saying the fight should have been stopped in the first round due to a head butt from Khan (clearly apportioning blame on what was obviously accidental). Then to claim that he'd have been better if he hadn't been hampered by the cut. The cut could have affected his sight but Khan was far too quick around the ring and fought an excellent game plan. I don't think the result would have been any different if the cut hadn't happened.
Oh and a special shout to all those lovely Manchester fight fans who boo'd Khan into the ring. I just don't get these British people who cheer a foreign sportsman against a British one.....legend or not!!
Well done to Khan!!! 
____________________
The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark.
|
Howfen White
Member
|
Posted: Sun Mar 15th, 2009 12:04 am |
|
Billy Bradshaw wrote: Oh and a special shout to all those lovely Manchester fight fans who boo'd Khan into the ring. I just don't get these British people who cheer a foreign sportsman against a British one.....legend or not!!
Well done to Khan!!!
I really don't understand why people don't like Amir Khan. The reasons I've heard are:
- He ran someone over and drove off
- He is cocky
- he is just a dick init
- just dont like him init
The only reason out of the above which is valid is the first one. I'm not a member of the PC leftie brigade, far from it, but I honestly think people don't like him because he is Asian. If he was called John Smith, I bet a lot of people would love him.
Well done to him anyway, he totally hammered Barrera, cut or no cut
____________________
I just can't believe it. I really can't. Gavin McCann for Ivan Klasnic. I'm in sheer disbelief. Did that actually just happen?
|
Billy Bradshaw
Administrator
| Joined: | Mon Oct 4th, 2004 |
| Location: | United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 17267 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sun Mar 15th, 2009 12:12 am |
|
| I'm not sure the first one is valid either. yes, he knocked someone down, but he didn't drive off.....at least not in the reports I've read.
____________________
The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark.
|
Howfen White
Member
|
Posted: Sun Mar 15th, 2009 12:14 am |
|
Billy Bradshaw wrote: I'm not sure the first one is valid either. yes, he knocked someone down, but he didn't drive off.....at least not in the reports I've read.
Any reasons people give are just cover stories because they don't like him because he is Asian. How is the way he acts any different to say Ricky Hatton or David Haye? I don't know!
____________________
I just can't believe it. I really can't. Gavin McCann for Ivan Klasnic. I'm in sheer disbelief. Did that actually just happen?
|
Billy Bradshaw
Administrator
| Joined: | Mon Oct 4th, 2004 |
| Location: | United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 17267 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sun Mar 15th, 2009 12:17 am |
|
Howfen White wrote: Billy Bradshaw wrote: I'm not sure the first one is valid either. yes, he knocked someone down, but he didn't drive off.....at least not in the reports I've read.
Any reasons people give are just cover stories because they don't like him because he is Asian. How is the way he acts any different to say Ricky Hatton or David Haye? I don't know!
It's typical of British fans. It is they who place people like Khan on a pedestal, and once they are on it.....they can't wait to knock them off. God knows why we do this, but we do.
I've heard English fans at Wimbledon shouting for the opposition, although that tended to be girlies who pledge their allegiance to the 'better looking one'. 
____________________
The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark.
|
le god
Member
| Joined: | Mon Jan 10th, 2005 |
| Location: | . |
| Posts: | 10990 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sun Mar 15th, 2009 12:22 am |
|
Big fan of Khan think he's a good fighter and a decent lad, can't see why any person from Bolton especially wouldn't want to see him succeed.
have to admit though i fcukin hated tim henman, what a morose prick!
|
Frankie
Administrator
| Joined: | Sat Oct 16th, 2004 |
| Location: | - |
| Posts: | 16966 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sun Mar 15th, 2009 06:21 am |
|
Didn't watch but I am surprised he won against such an experienced fighter. Clash of heads or no clash of heads.
Well done Kahn.
____________________
|
Howfen White
Member
|
Posted: Sun Mar 15th, 2009 03:36 pm |
|
le god wrote: have to admit though i fcukin hated tim henman, what a morose prick!
Although he's a middle-upper toff, he was the only English player to represent us at a high level so I always supported him, as I do with all English sportsmen! At the time of typing, my housemate is watching the Rugby Union, a sport I couldn't give two flying f*cks about, but I see England are winning and it's good to see!
Back to Khan, I thought he took some shots off Barrera well. His attacks are very good and he's looking the part. Hope he gets another big fight soon.
____________________
I just can't believe it. I really can't. Gavin McCann for Ivan Klasnic. I'm in sheer disbelief. Did that actually just happen?
|
D1OUFY
Member
|
Posted: Sun Mar 15th, 2009 06:23 pm |
|
le god wrote: Big fan of Khan think he's a good fighter and a decent lad, can't see why any person from Bolton especially wouldn't want to see him succeed.
have to admit though i fcukin hated tim henman, what a morose prick!
He never really used to be, perhaps it was those around him though.
Admittedly he comes across as one now, and I personally thought he had gone some way to bringing together the Asian and non-asian community.
Fellow Brits booing him, particularly in Bolton and Manchester is a bit odd. Perhaps its because of his flash cars, bling and his jaunts around town. Whereas Ricky Hatton seems to drink quietly in his local.
There is still prob a little bit of a factor with him being Asian though. Which is the saddest thing.
|
Tweek
Guest
| Joined: | |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sun Mar 15th, 2009 06:27 pm |
|
| I hope he does well, especially being a bolton lad,i also hope he doesnt fight nobodies and old men and then retire like calzhaghi.
|
Frankie
Administrator
| Joined: | Sat Oct 16th, 2004 |
| Location: | - |
| Posts: | 16966 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sun Mar 15th, 2009 06:36 pm |
|
I see Don King has opened his "fat mouth" and "saluted" kahn
Can boxing not do ANYTHING without the kn0b ???
____________________
|
Tweek
Guest
| Joined: | |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Mon Mar 16th, 2009 12:33 pm |
|
| Reading some of the papers in the cafe today you,d think khan beat a peak barrera instead of a slow old man, khans 22 barrera,s 35 and f#cked, i,d be more impressed if khan fought the guy who destroyed him a fight back, probably not in too much of a hurry though if he makes it to the top i doubt he will fight anyone young and dangerous but thats the way it is now.
|
Billy Bradshaw
Administrator
| Joined: | Mon Oct 4th, 2004 |
| Location: | United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 17267 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Mon Mar 16th, 2009 02:01 pm |
|
Tweek wrote: Reading some of the papers in the cafe today you,d think khan beat a peak barrera instead of a slow old man, khans 22 barrera,s 35 and f#cked, i,d be more impressed if khan fought the guy who destroyed him a fight back, probably not in too much of a hurry though if he makes it to the top i doubt he will fight anyone young and dangerous but thats the way it is now.
If you don't mind me saying Tweek, that's a typical 'no-win' response in terms of Khan.
If he wins, he's beaten a has-been. If he'd lost, it would have confirmed your suspicions that he was never that good anyway.
This was a very risky fight for Khan to take. He was slight favourite, but he wasn't odds-n as Maccarinelli was for his fight (1/20 and still lost). How many boxers have you ever known, that take too many risks on the way up? You can criticise the fight game all day long, but if you want to bring an up and coming boxer through, you nurture them and get them fights that are seen as a challenge, but hopefully won't result in disaster. It's all about getting that number one challenger slot and getting there as easy as possible and without taking too many risks.
Some of the best fighters in the world have gone into fights against nobodies and got caught cold with a punch. So you minimise the risk, especially as you are trying to get that title shot. That's not Khan's fault and he's not ducking anyone. It makes sound financial sense from his managements point of view. Regarding your point about taking on the bloke that beat him.......would that have got him any closer to the world title fight he really wants?
It's funny how only british boxers are tagged in this way, yet this happens in boxing all the time.
By the way, your comment about Calzaghe was utterly ridiculous.
"i also hope he doesnt fight nobodies and old men and then retire like calzhaghi".
Calzaghe was champion for 11 years....not just for one fight. You don't stay champion for 11 years by ducking fighters and you can't always duck No. 1 mandatory challengers.
____________________
The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark.
|
Rover the Top
606 Veteran
| Joined: | Mon Oct 4th, 2004 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 485 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Mon Mar 16th, 2009 02:52 pm |
|
| I'm not a big follower of boxing and I don't gamble very often, but I was out with a group of lads for my mate's birthday on Saturday, and we had a sweepstake on how many rounds the fight would last... and I won. Which was fortunate, as it meant I could afford to go to the club after...
____________________
http://www.venusstar.co.uk
|
Tweek
Guest
| Joined: | |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Mon Mar 16th, 2009 04:46 pm |
|
Billy Bradshaw wrote: Tweek wrote: Reading some of the papers in the cafe today you,d think khan beat a peak barrera instead of a slow old man, khans 22 barrera,s 35 and f#cked, i,d be more impressed if khan fought the guy who destroyed him a fight back, probably not in too much of a hurry though if he makes it to the top i doubt he will fight anyone young and dangerous but thats the way it is now.
If you don't mind me saying Tweek, that's a typical 'no-win' response in terms of Khan.
If he wins, he's beaten a has-been. If he'd lost, it would have confirmed your suspicions that he was never that good anyway.
This was a very risky fight for Khan to take. He was slight favourite, but he wasn't odds-n as Maccarinelli was for his fight (1/20 and still lost). How many boxers have you ever known, that take too many risks on the way up? You can criticise the fight game all day long, but if you want to bring an up and coming boxer through, you nurture them and get them fights that are seen as a challenge, but hopefully won't result in disaster. It's all about getting that number one challenger slot and getting there as easy as possible and without taking too many risks.
Some of the best fighters in the world have gone into fights against nobodies and got caught cold with a punch. So you minimise the risk, especially as you are trying to get that title shot. That's not Khan's fault and he's not ducking anyone. It makes sound financial sense from his managements point of view. Regarding your point about taking on the bloke that beat him.......would that have got him any closer to the world title fight he really wants?
It's funny how only british boxers are tagged in this way, yet this happens in boxing all the time.
By the way, your comment about Calzaghe was utterly ridiculous.
"i also hope he doesnt fight nobodies and old men and then retire like calzhaghi".
Calzaghe was champion for 11 years....not just for one fight. You don't stay champion for 11 years by ducking fighters and you can't always duck No. 1 mandatory challengers.
Hey billy, khan was never in any danger from barrera and his team knew it. my comment on calzaghi is based on this- he fought mostly nobodies all the names he met were well past it, the argument for him is he beat lacy and kessler none of whom beat a name fighter,his ring legacy is nowhere near that of hopkins and jones who fought name fighters at there peaks,old man hopkins floored at 43 what would he have done at his peak same with roy jones calzaghe wouldn,t have lived with those two, no calzaghe right time ,right place,no decent opposition, deserves credit for beating what was there though but certainly well overated for me, funny though when a half decent younger fighter like carl froch turns up calzaghe goes missing.
|
Tweek
Guest
| Joined: | |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Mon Mar 16th, 2009 11:19 pm |
|
| you can easily stay champ for 11 years if theres nobody decent to fight or you avoid dangerous opponents,how come he didn,t fight hopkins and jones 11 years ago when they were a lot more dangerous,why wait until they were a couple of years away from walking sticks,cos you dont lose of course, no i dont buy into the calzaghe,s a legend at all,just well protected ,as for frank warren ranting he would have beaten all the great fighters in recent years bollox.
|
BringBackBurndenPark
Member
|
Posted: Tue Mar 17th, 2009 01:59 pm |
|
I think its a bit funny how people who say '' I cant understand how the British crowd would prefer a foreigner to win over a British boxer'' and then say, ''they only do it because he is a British Asian''.
If its wrong to boo him because he is Asian then surely its wrong to automatically support him because he is British.
Funny old world but i do agree though that a lot of people will not like him because of his Pakistani background. I do see a lot of what goes on though between White Brits, other forigners and British asians with pakistani a background and can see why alot of people would find it hard to support Khan.
Throw a few other people with different nationalities into the mix with a few other religions, and they get involved. I really dont know if this multi cultural England helps fight racism, of just fuels it.Last edited on Tue Mar 17th, 2009 02:03 pm by BringBackBurndenPark
____________________
Lack of ambition, lack of money, lack of interest!!!
|
Philsfaxmachine
Member
| Joined: | Mon Feb 6th, 2006 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 2373 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2009 08:13 pm |
|
I don't like him because he's over hyped sh1te who hasn't beaten ANYBODY of any standing. Perhaps the Barrera who beat Naseem Hamed would have given him a fight but not a guy who came out of retirement and who looks every day of a 36 year old.
Khan talks of Pacqiou (spelling?) and a rematch with Prescott, Frank Warren talks of taking things slowly, obviously as they've already been found out on more than one ocassion in Khan's short career.
He's miles from a title shot IMO. And for all those ready to jump on the racist band waggon, save it. I was a big fan of Naseem Hamed's and in his prime he'd have wiped the floor with Khan.
|
Tweek
Guest
| Joined: | |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sat Mar 28th, 2009 11:31 am |
|
| saw an interview with carl froch the other day, he wonders why calzaghi has gone when they could get it on, perhaps its because froch is relatively young and can fight,maybe calzaghi would win,but after the pensioners he,s been used to i bet he does not fancy it.
|
Billy Bradshaw
Administrator
| Joined: | Mon Oct 4th, 2004 |
| Location: | United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 17267 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sat Mar 28th, 2009 02:38 pm |
|
Philsfaxmachine wrote: I was a big fan of Naseem Hamed's and in his prime he'd have wiped the floor with Khan.
Is that the same Hamed who bottled it after losing a single fight? Khan lost a fight, got up, dusted himself down and fought again. Yes, Hamed in his prime would have beaten Khan, but in his short career, Khan has shown he has more bottle than Hamed ever had.
Hamed was a great fighter, but in his last 3 or 4 fights, the cracks were apparent.
____________________
The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark.
|
M-Monkey
Member
| Joined: | Sat Jan 22nd, 2005 |
| Location: | Sydney, Australia |
| Posts: | 391 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Wed Apr 29th, 2009 03:41 am |
|
Tweek wrote: saw an interview with carl froch the other day, he wonders why calzaghi has gone when they could get it on, perhaps its because froch is relatively young and can fight,maybe calzaghi would win,but after the pensioners he,s been used to i bet he does not fancy it.
Bit harsh. Watched Froch the other night and Joe, even at his age would crucify him for his defensive weaknesses. Shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath just yet IMO.
____________________
Oh I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered Wings:
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds-and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of-wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hovering there
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air;
Up, up the long delirious, burning blue
I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace,
Where never lark nor even eagle flew;
And while, with silent lifting mind I've trod
The high, untresspassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.
*****
Pilot Officer John Gillespie Magee. 1922-1941
|
Billy Bradshaw
Administrator
| Joined: | Mon Oct 4th, 2004 |
| Location: | United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 17267 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Mon May 4th, 2009 08:46 pm |
|
M-Monkey wrote: Tweek wrote: saw an interview with carl froch the other day, he wonders why calzaghi has gone when they could get it on, perhaps its because froch is relatively young and can fight,maybe calzaghi would win,but after the pensioners he,s been used to i bet he does not fancy it.
Bit harsh. Watched Froch the other night and Joe, even at his age would crucify him for his defensive weaknesses. Shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath just yet IMO.
Of course Froch is trying to goad Calzaghe into coming back. That's because he wants a big pay day. Just because Froch won the other week, it doesn't mean he was that good.
____________________
The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark.
|
Current time is 10:34 am | |
|
