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Billy Bradshaw Administrator 
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This one to make us safe I reckon. We must win this one............ |
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Howfen White Member 
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Not only could this keep us up, it could relegate Boro. Surely losing to use would be a right dent in confidence??? |
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Frankie Administrator 
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Billy Bradshaw wrote: We must win this one............ Believe it when I see it ......  i |
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Frankie Administrator
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Geordies n Smoggies for relegation now there might be a happy ending to this shite season |
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Billy Bradshaw Administrator
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Frankie wrote: Geordies n Smoggies for relegation now there might be a happy ending to this shite season I think it might be worth a punt on the current bottom three going down. Imagine that......Newcastle (massive club) being relegated.  |
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And Newcastle have a really tough run-in. |
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Valderee 606 Veteran 
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This is the "must win" of "must wins". Bit like last season at their place. Gav McCann - this is your moment.   |
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le god Member 
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We could put them in the grave, or they will drag us right back into it... or we will draw and nothing will be decided. my money is on a draw, but it should be a game we looking to go all out in. |
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liamBWFC Member 
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Hopefully a repeat performance from earlier on in the season in that 4 out of 5 wins month. |
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truewhite15 Member 
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effing COME ON!! we improved today, Shittu to start vs Boro, we just need to put the game to bed...a win here would be crucial come on Meggo, make it happen!! |
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Frankie Administrator
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le god wrote: We could put them in the grave, or they will drag us right back into it... or we will draw and nothing will be decided. State the obvious Have you had a sex change |
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le god Member
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Frankie wrote:le god wrote:We could put them in the grave, or they will drag us right back into it... or we will draw and nothing will be decided. haha That was my version of a film trailer.. setting up this thread, cranking up the tension! ok so it didn't work but at least i tried! |
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Howfen White Member
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I just hope we get a decent crowd and atmosphere for this one. Can't see it happening though. |
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melbourne dave Member 
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We should beat Boro, so there is not way in the world this is a certainty. God I hate it when we play shit and I have no confidence v Boro. |
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Woody Member 
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I'd see this game as a must not lose rather than must win. I can see it going one of two ways: we beat them by three or four, or we'll slug out a score draw. I can't bring myself to entertain the possibility of defeat. |
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Sprout Member 
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Woody wrote: I'd see this game as a must not lose rather than must win. And that, I fear, is how he-who-shall-not-be-named and the players will see it ... i.e. let's be defensive. |
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Billy Bradshaw Administrator
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Sprout wrote: Woody wrote:I'd see this game as a must not lose rather than must win. Surely not..... |
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Woody Member
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he-who-shall-not-be-named was famous for those words last season, but I certainly don't think he'll be telling his side that for this game. Boro are here for the taking and he-who-shall-not-be-named will want to win this game, but if we come away with a point it's not end of the world. On-the-other hand, if we manage to lose this game, well, every man and his dog will be out to get he-who-shall-not-be-named. It would take our home defeats to 8, the worst since 96, could he-who-shall-not-be-named recover from that fact? |
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Woody wrote: he-who-shall-not-be-named was famous for those words last season, but I certainly don't think he'll be telling his side that for this game. Boro are here for the taking and he-who-shall-not-be-named will want to win this game, but if we come away with a point it's not end of the world. no |
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Tweek wrote: Woody wrote:he-who-shall-not-be-named was famous for those words last season, but I certainly don't think he'll be telling his side that for this game. Boro are here for the taking and he-who-shall-not-be-named will want to win this game, but if we come away with a point it's not end of the world. Yes - If he-who-shall-not-be-named keeps us up this season, he won't be sacked. Simple as. |
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Andy Walsh Member 
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There is no way on this planet that gary he-who-shall-not-be-named is going to be sacked in the forseeable future. We will easily accumulate the necessary points and prob finish in midtable - which is where the vast majority of people said they'd like to see us this season. Then he will be in charge of the purse strings over the summer months. |
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Billy Bradshaw wrote: Tweek wrote:Woody wrote:he-who-shall-not-be-named was famous for those words last season, but I certainly don't think he'll be telling his side that for this game. Boro are here for the taking and he-who-shall-not-be-named will want to win this game, but if we come away with a point it's not end of the world. Exactly. But failure to get at least one from this game would throw us right back into the mix making that outcome slightly more likely. |
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le god Member
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Sprout wrote: Billy Bradshaw wrote:Tweek wrote:Woody wrote:he-who-shall-not-be-named was famous for those words last season, but I certainly don't think he'll be telling his side that for this game. Boro are here for the taking and he-who-shall-not-be-named will want to win this game, but if we come away with a point it's not end of the world. If we get relegated he should rightly be sacked, anything else and he should stay IMO. Next season (if we stay up) we should be looking for a comfortable finish in the top 12 with no relegation fears and that will show real progress over 2 seasons. Another relegation scrap will be fairly disapointing. |
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Andy Walsh wrote:There is no way on this planet that gary he-who-shall-not-be-named is going to be sacked in the forseeable future. We will easily accumulate the necessary points and prob finish in midtable - which is where the vast majority of people said they'd like to see us this season. Then he will be in charge of the purse strings over the summer months. I was very much in this camp for the past couple of months, but I would not be surprised if the club did decide to let he-who-shall-not-be-named go whether we stay up or not. Gartside, the board and even the players must all be thoroughly concerned about what they are hearing from Bolton Wanderers fans. If I'm being honest, at the moment I have about 75% confidence in he-who-shall-not-be-named (I don't actually know what I mean by that, I'm 100% behind him, but do I think we will ever be more than a team fighting relegation? In other words, will we ever see a noticeable improvement under he-who-shall-not-be-named? My head says: probably not). My confidence in he-who-shall-not-be-named has drifted this season many times from about 5% after the Spurs defeat and has had my full confidence over the course of the season too, which is why I remain 100% behind him. That was a bit of an aside, but my general point is: can the board afford to keep he-who-shall-not-be-named in charge, considering the massive divide between supporters and obvious vocal disdain directed towards him from a significant portion of this fan base? If he-who-shall-not-be-named does not finish this season on a impressive high, I would not be surprised to see him go. I know I'm seriously worried for us, so I assume the people in charge are too. The sad thing is, it's not really he-who-shall-not-be-named's fault at all. As for the players, how long will players like Cahill, Elmander and Taylor be happy to continue playing at this football club when supporters are regularly abusive towards the guy that's in charge? They must hate it as much as the sane ones amongst us. We are in a bad way, I've said a couple of times that I'm ashamed by the idiots who chant w*nk*r at he-who-shall-not-be-named, the support at Blacburn made me sick at the end of the game, I predict season ticket sales will go down next season by a few thousand, I'm almost certain of that. I fear for he-who-shall-not-be-named that the only way we can resolve this problem, will be to let him go. |
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Frandsen08 Member 
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win this one and as long as chelski beat the geordies we'll be 8 points clear with a good run in, cant see us getting anything from chelsea pompey will be a tough game and then villa |
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Catte Strophe 606 Veteran
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Frandsen08 wrote: win this one and as long as chelski beat the geordies we'll be 8 points clear with a good run in, cant see us getting anything from chelsea pompey will be a tough game and then villa Yep we need 3 points against Boro as the next three could be sometime off... |
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Frandsen08 Member
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i'd be happy with 5 points from next 4 games to be quite honest i thinks its possible but need to play well against boro or villa will tear us apart at the end of the month |
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Salford White Member 
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The issue over support is very relevant. The published crowd figure against Fulham clearly included all season ticket holders and not the number who actually passed through the gate. If there were more than 16,000 in the stadium I'll plait sawdust. I won't be renewing my ST unless there are far reaching changes as Ive not enjoyed a single home match after the opener against Stoke. Thing is, ST sales only contribute a tiny amount of revenue against the huge sums coming from Sky, so the big question is will the club be that bothered by falling attendances? Boro: Got an appalling draw written all over it and Im really not sure I can be bothered to go to be honest. And no, I cant believe Ive just written that either. |
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Catte Strophe 606 Veteran
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Salford White wrote: Boro: Got an appalling draw written all over it and Im really not sure I can be bothered to go to be honest. And no, I cant believe Ive just written that either. SW, I would not go into the back garden to watch Boro play anybody even my beloved BWFC just something about them and the ability they have to make me want to poke myself in the eyes repeatedly. Having said that I have Boro mates and enjoyed Cardiff on the lash with their fans, but just to pay stupid money to watch a team more scared than us play well us is more than a man can bare. Your point on attendances is very apt, as when at the emirates this year they repeatedly announce a sell out when it is anything but, and I am guessing their average gate is around 60k when it has been much less on occasions. At the Bok it is more pronounced when there are 10k of empty seating do the club care ? if it was only empty seats no, but it is the beer and pie's, the betting, the advertising and shop sales they are after and if there are no fans then attracting top players to play in empty stadia will be a challenge even beyond our charismatic Manager... |
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I'm quite deluded going into this game really. I WANT it to be the big win that it should be. We are superior to Boro in every area of the field. Davies is bang on form, and a win will probably see us safe. I want a mega attendance with a proper Premiership atmosphere. But I doubt I'll get either. Never has 0-0 seemed such a worthwhile bet. The attendance will struggle to creep above 20,000 because Boro travel about as well as we do (little-to-none). Quite worried about the number of fans saying that line though "if it stays as boring as this I'm not coming back next year", and then in the same breath complaining about the low attendances. What else will you do on a Saturday day? |
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Djibril Member 
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chris_rabz wrote: I'm quite deluded going into this game really. I WANT it to be the big win that it should be. We are superior to Boro in every area of the field. Davies is bang on form, and a win will probably see us safe. I want a mega attendance with a proper Premiership atmosphere. this year our away support has been great every away game i have been to there have been a vast amount of us |
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le god Member
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Djibril wrote: chris_rabz wrote:I'm quite deluded going into this game really. I WANT it to be the big win that it should be. We are superior to Boro in every area of the field. Davies is bang on form, and a win will probably see us safe. I want a mega attendance with a proper Premiership atmosphere. I usually go down to pompey (won't this year for obvious reasons) but the following there is usually about 200 max. though we took a shit load when i went to Derby last season. It varies. |
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Frandsen08 Member
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le god wrote: Djibril wrote:chris_rabz wrote:I'm quite deluded going into this game really. I WANT it to be the big win that it should be. We are superior to Boro in every area of the field. Davies is bang on form, and a win will probably see us safe. I want a mega attendance with a proper Premiership atmosphere. last time i went to pompey it was a wednesday night it took nearly 6 1/2 hours had to take the day off school and we lost 4 - 0 and mr ring and ride himself teddy sheringham scored a hatrick, so no i shall not be travelling there this year |
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Jamm Administrator 
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Frandsen08 wrote: last time i went to pompey it was a wednesday night it took nearly 6 1/2 hours had to take the day off school and we lost 4 - 0 and mr ring and ride himself teddy sheringham scored a hatrick, so no i shall not be travelling there this year Yeah, I was at that one, wasn't pleasant... luckily I was living daan saarf at the time so the miserable trip home didn't last long... |
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Jamm wrote: Frandsen08 wrote:last time i went to pompey it was a wednesday night it took nearly 6 1/2 hours had to take the day off school and we lost 4 - 0 and mr ring and ride himself teddy sheringham scored a hatrick, so no i shall not be travelling there this year oh and it bounced it down with no bloody cover, if i think correctly. i cant see many boro fans travelling to this and if they cheer they'll probably be in for a rollicking off their chairman, honestly i've neve heard anything as ridiculous as that |
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Salford White Member
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chris_rabz wrote: Quite worried about the number of fans saying that line though "if it stays as boring as this I'm not coming back next year", and then in the same breath complaining about the low attendances. What else will you do on a Saturday day? Go walking Do the shopping Walk the dog See my girlfriend Have a pint Take Ryanair to Dublin/Belfast - get pished n fly back for less than the ticket to the match Play golf I could go on, but I think Ive made my point......................... |
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Andy Walsh Member
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Salford White wrote: chris_rabz wrote:Quite worried about the number of fans saying that line though "if it stays as boring as this I'm not coming back next year", and then in the same breath complaining about the low attendances. What else will you do on a Saturday day? Not when you add in a. taxes b. baggage handling c. Any other surcharge that Ryanair add. The man's a crook! You can see a game for less than £20! |
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Andy Walsh wrote: Salford White wrote:chris_rabz wrote:Quite worried about the number of fans saying that line though "if it stays as boring as this I'm not coming back next year", and then in the same breath complaining about the low attendances. What else will you do on a Saturday day? Totally agree with that Andy. The airport Taxes alone from Southampton to Manchester cost me more than any ticket that I have ever bought to watch a game at the Reebok. No wonder when I come up North, I drive, rather than fly. It is helluva lot cheaper than tickets where the airfare is £1. and the airport taxes extortionable. |
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Howfen White Member
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bdi wrote: Andy Walsh wrote:Salford White wrote:chris_rabz wrote:Quite worried about the number of fans saying that line though "if it stays as boring as this I'm not coming back next year", and then in the same breath complaining about the low attendances. What else will you do on a Saturday day? Lets not forget it is about £5 a pint too! |
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Tony Kelly IS Zico! Member 
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Don't forget £20 quid for a breakfast Last edited on Sat Mar 28th, 2009 04:48 pm by Tony Kelly IS Zico! |
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Salford White Member
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20p for a flight last wek including taxes and £7.50 for my flight to Oslo next month including taxes. But yes, he's still a robbing bar steward. |
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chris_rabz Member
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Salford White wrote: chris_rabz wrote:Quite worried about the number of fans saying that line though "if it stays as boring as this I'm not coming back next year", and then in the same breath complaining about the low attendances. What else will you do on a Saturday day? Well yeah but APART from that... |
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Tony Kelly IS Zico! Member
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Watching BWFC from the Lofty Stand Lower? Last edited on Sun Mar 29th, 2009 11:00 am by Tony Kelly IS Zico! |
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cant make it this sat,taking the wife & kids away for the weekend.....gutted,only missed the bluenose game this season & that was down to work.will be scrambling for the latest scores coming in from abergele,sod the grand national! COME ON YOUUUUU WWHHIITTEESSS!!!!! |
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Howfen White Member
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Just seen this on the official site: Don't forget that you can read more from the skipper in this weekend's programme. The Middlesbrough edition features exclusive interviews with Joey O'Brien and Michael Ricketts, plus Academy Manager Jimmy Phillips talks about his time at Ayresome Park during his playing days. Look out for the numerous programme sellers positioned throughout the Reebok Stadium on the matchday. What the bloody hell is he doing in it? I'd love to see what he has to say. 'I really wish I never left Bolton and it's only because my head got bigger than my arse, I flicked up, please can I come back and clean Kevin Davies' boots?' If anyone gets the programme please type up what he said, would be much appreicated! |
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chris_rabz wrote: I'm quite deluded going into this game really. I WANT it to be the big win that it should be. We are superior to Boro in every area of the field. Davies is bang on form, and a win will probably see us safe. I want a mega attendance with a proper Premiership atmosphere. Stab myself? |
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Howfen White wrote: Just seen this on the official site: He was in the Boro programme for the fixture at The Riverside in November, saying how his stint at Boro was the best time of his career (aside from winning the Carling Cup, what did he do there?) No doubt he'll be declaring his undying love for the Wanderers in Saturdays programme? Do one fat boy.  Last edited on Thu Apr 2nd, 2009 11:55 am by Leemac12 |
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Woody Member
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Having made a tenner bet with a Boro fan last night that they won't win their next three games, I'll be happy with a draw! |
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xxxxxx Member
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Anyone got a link to the game? |
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le god Member
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Iraq goals but the site is down as far as i can see |
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d-f-b Member
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woot  .. got the skysports blather on... 'and the man capello ignored'YES ! SKD ! |
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Frankie Administrator
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My link just kicked in to hear the goal.... Davo |
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Valderee 606 Veteran
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d-f-b wrote:
Up yours Capello  ...or maybe thanks Capello, our man is fit and scoring  Meanwhile somewhere else: Fabio: Sir Bookin, Dyvis he score again Sir Brookin: B*******s Last edited on Sat Apr 4th, 2009 02:17 pm by Valderee |
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le god Member
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1-0 up but on the back foot... interesting. |
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Valderee 606 Veteran
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le god wrote: 1-0 up but on the back foot... interesting. Nothing new there, eh..... |
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Frankie Administrator
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We seem to be under alot of pressure and they have had a goal disallowed ..... Oh and Muamba was shocking in front of goal a minute ago. They score ...shit Last edited on Sat Apr 4th, 2009 02:39 pm by Frankie |
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xxxxxx Member
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Will we ever have a clean sheet ever again? Middlesbrough will win today. Fact. We tend to do this against teams that have been shite. |
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le god Member
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Utter utter utter crap. why are we playing like were 8-0 up and cruising? Can't pass for fcuking nuts. |
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muamba one of the worst players ever to put on a white shirt. anyone got a link too the game please |
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Byroms a legend wrote: muamba one of the worst players ever to put on a white shirt. anyone got a link too the game please Here you go: http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch1.html I don't know why I'm bothering. We're awful! |
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Frankie Administrator
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Cahill scores assist from Elmander. |
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d-f-b Member
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YES!!!!!!! |
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le god Member
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how undeserved was that ??? but i'll flicking take it cracking finish can that lad play up front?? |
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Andy Walsh Member
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In your face doom laden muppets |
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le god Member
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Andy Walsh wrote:In your face doom laden muppets yeah cos we've played well. So shut up anyone who says we haven't... pricks! |
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Andy Walsh Member
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le god wrote: Andy Walsh wrote: le God when I want someone to mourn at a funeral, I'll ring you. It's all your good for! Goals mean points. We've had 6 chances on target to their two - that's the stats. First 20 minutes it was all us. Next 20 all them. They're desperate and anyone thinking today would be a walkover is an idiot. |
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Andy Walsh wrote: In your face doom laden muppets |
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le god Member
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Andy Walsh wrote:le god wrote:Andy Walsh wrote: Just say it how i see it Andy, can't be arsed to argue with you time and time and time and time again. And i definitely don't want you to leave the forum again in a tiff... i like the debate you bring to this place. I mean that seriously. |
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Frankie Administrator
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41-59% Possession Elmander should of done better !!! |
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le god Member
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Its end to end you've got to say could be anything at the moment. |
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Valderee 606 Veteran
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Bottom 3 all losing would be good, please...... |
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Frankie Administrator
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Happy Days - Geordies 2 down |
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Valderee 606 Veteran
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Some Messiah, but Sky pundits claiming ickle Michaeal scored....... ....and according to Cottee I don't think we have touched the ball this half......  ...second halves have been bad nearly all season........  Last edited on Sat Apr 4th, 2009 03:38 pm by Valderee |
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Frankie Administrator
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3-1 |
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d-f-b Member
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3 - 1 to the wannnderers |
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we are the one and only wanderers |
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Frankie Administrator
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Matt Taylor ... what a season he is having |
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d-f-b Member
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scentless_apprentice wrote: we are the one and only wanderersBOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM.  |
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Frankie Administrator
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Basham on Elmander off |
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Frankie wrote: Basham on more of a goal threat???? |
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Frankie Administrator
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4-1 Riccy |
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d-f-b Member
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FOUR!!!! when did we last get FOUR !!! |
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Yes!!! Watching the scores change from Sydney - how have we played? |
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Mark08 Member
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who said we were rubbish |
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Frankie Administrator
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Boro down with the Brom I reckon. |
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M-Monkey wrote: Yes!!! Watching the scores change from Sydney - how have we played? not the greatest but who cares |
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Andy Walsh Member
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le god wrote: Andy Walsh wrote: I didn't. |
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le god Member
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I honestly can't believe this!!!!! especially after the the last 30 minutes of the first half i thought we were done for. |
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M-Monkey Member
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I wrote the last one at 3-1 - is it now 4-1? BBC hasn't updated yet! |
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le god Member
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Andy Walsh wrote:le god wrote:Andy Walsh wrote: Apologies in that case i seem to remember an unsavory incident with you and mich caine (or someone else) that led you to declare you wouldn't come back unless they left. but hey petty arguments make this place a laugh wouldn't have it any other way! its a forum, i come here to debate. end of the day we all support the same club, think we all forget that sometimes. |
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Andy Walsh Member
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le god wrote: Andy Walsh wrote: It's OK - I should never post during or within 2 hours of a game |
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d-f-b wrote: FOUR!!!! when did we last get FOUR !!! Last time we played Boro I think?! |
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Frankie Administrator
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Excellent win !!! |
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Mark08 Member
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Frankie wrote: Excellent win !!! yes. yes it was. |
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Andy Walsh Member
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Us safe now, methinks |
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Billy Bradshaw Administrator
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This should be a lesson to those who post doom and gloom when the opposition equalise.....staements like "Boro will win this now.....fact" spring to mind. I don't care if we never have a clean sheet, if we win the game. i think we're safe now. 7 games to go, with the 18th placed team 8 points behind...effectively 3 wins behind us. YES!!!! |
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M-Monkey Member
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Andy Walsh wrote: Us safe now, methinks Don't speak too soon! We're looking good but I'd think we will need another 4 points to be absolutely sure. |
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Mark08 Member
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Billy Bradshaw wrote: This should be a lesson to those who post doom and gloom when the opposition equalise.....staements like "Boro will win this now.....fact" spring to mind. i can understand how an opposition equaliser is a real kick in the guts but i agree, the "FACT" statement was completely ridiculous. |
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xxxxxx Member
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~backs out of the topic~ |
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xxxxxx wrote: ~backs out of the topic~ |
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Scurry wrote: d-f-b wrote:'caaan we play you every weeek'FOUR!!!! when did we last get FOUR !!! ahh quick chekc on soccerbase.... sunderland... |
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Billy Bradshaw wrote: This should be a lesson to those who post doom and gloom when the opposition equalise.....staements like "Boro will win this now.....fact" spring to mind.Tis a much better place to be this season than we were last! We're looking down instead of looking up!! We still have a tough 3 games coming up but I don't see the bottom teams gaining too much... they also have some Big 4 teams ahead!!! |
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Howfen White Member
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Great result, 4-1 probably flattered us a bit but we were the better team. I thought it was going to be another throw-away day when they came back level, we shut off until Cahill scored. Thank God Tuncay had a bad day with his shooting, some of those could easily have gone in! Ricardo Gardner man of the match for me, created so much going forward and helped back tackling too. He just pips Shittu to it, who I thought was brilliant alongside Cahill. Having Shittu at the back makes me feel a lot more comfortable when a cross or corner is played in, he won everything in the air. Lets hope he keeps his place next week! Only poor show for us today was Elmander. What a useless waste of space. Can't run, can't shoot, can't really do anything. When it was 1-0 and Gardner played that ball through to him, why did he stop? He always stops and turns his back. Smolarek should have been playing instead of him. If he was 1 on 1 with the 'keeper I would be more confident of him going on to actually have a shot! |
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xxxxxx wrote: ~backs out of the topic~ I don't mean any harm mate......I'm sure i've said these type of things myself before now. Let's all look on the bright side.....a win means another week without Bullet!! |
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Nice to see the 3 lads all overlooked by Capello managed a goal today And Ricardo Gardner capped a fine performance with a great goal. |
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Glad to see our of possession drops today. We usually win without the majority of the possesion. We need to get another Davies before he turns too old. Good win and salute all the wanderers. Most importantly, we are looking forward to celebrating the 9th season in top flight. |
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great win and well deserved ricardo was awesome 4 me and shittu had a solid game in defence super kev as he is most times was ;super; glad to see the boro fans having some fun near the end by keeping the ball .oh by the way lads did matty shoot or was it a cross.would like to hear is answer to that question . |
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no doubt about it he crossed it. the fact that he whipped it in on target shows hes a good set piece taker Last edited on Sat Apr 4th, 2009 07:43 pm by Cromy |
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Cromy Member
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no doubt about it he crossed it. the fact that he whipped it in on target is a fact hes a good set piece taker |
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le god Member
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Sorry but what a goal from Rikkkkaayyyy, Great control (unlike him) Great skill to switch feet and a cracking finish. That was like bloody Torres on his day. Seriously has Gardner had a drugs test this year? hopefully they don't get round to it. |
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jackbwfc Member
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Gardner was a huge threat going forward today, pacey, good skills, and a good touch and finish for his goal, splendidly taken. |
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Valderee 606 Veteran
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Meanwhile somewhere in London: Fabio: Sir Brookin, I hear Dyvis, Cyerhill, and Tylor all score for Bowlton today. Cyerhill was in my longdog, sorry long squad, and someone tell me look at Tylor too. Sir Brookin: No, No Don Fabio, No No. I'm on the case. Al those goals will be ruled out. The game will be a 1-0 win to Boro. Fabio: Eh? Waat? Sir Brookin: Gotta help out Alan and Gareth you know. Get Bol'on sent down. Fabio: OK, but who I pick next time? Sir Brookin: Well, my dear ol' Emmers won today. Pick Tomkins. Fabio: Who the wotsit is Tomkins? Sir Brookin: New 'Emmers 'ero. Fabio: Never 'erd of 'im. I call Mugasson for advice. Sir Brookin', you're fired. Sir Brookin: Don Fabio, Don Fabio, No, No........ |
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Oh no surely Sir Brookin' hasn't really been fired. Valderee you must bring him back! Vital win, goes without saying. The first half was a game of two halves. After the first few minutes we played quite well and looked dangerous going forward. Middlesbrough were atrocious at the back. Davies must have thought "take that Fabio" when he scored. Saw off the so called Middlesbro hard man Pogatez! Softy! The Middlesbrough then got control and looked dangerous - resulting in a not to unexpected goal. The second half with us winning 2-1, Middlesbrough played like it was the last ten minutes for the whole of the second half. They were desperate and looked quite dangerous although they very rarely hit the target. This meant of course we had acres of space to break away and we regularly did. For once we actually took advantage of these breaks and we didn't just hack the ball away and back to them. Ricky seemed to have a "free ish" role which helped this a lot. Although not sparkling four goals is definately a good and deserved win. Jussi: Came and took a great cross. Please do it more often. Not a lot to do. Steinsson: Found it difficult against Downing who didn't play fair by crossing with his right foot a lot. Most unsporting. Decent going forward. Lloyd-Samual: Good game. Cahill: Excellent "Big Dan" Shittu: Awesome. I swear he nearly headed the ball out of shape. Now if we just get a corner on his head he'll break the back of the net. McCann: Had a good game. Did the usual unheralded stuff. Muamba: Tackled and harrased well. Passed the ball better in the second half when he kept it simple. Please don't shoot. Gardner: Superb. Rewarded with a great goal. MotM. Taylor: Good goal. It was not a freak. You hit those free kicks at the far post. If a forward heads it it generally goes in and if nobody touches it, it goes in at the far post. The keeper cannot afford to gamble. Played well. Davies: Just Kevin Davies - that's enough praise in itself. Won a lot in the air. Elmander: I just can't figure him out. Did some good closing down but lacks confidence in front of goal. Several times he had a chance to shoot and delayed to make the situation worse. Basham: Showed, once again, that he is a footballer even in the short period of time he was on. Last edited on Sat Apr 4th, 2009 08:48 pm by Benny_Bear |
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truewhite15 Member
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superb win in the end, terrific finishing from all except #9 Jussi - composed, did well to block a chance early in the 2nd half Steinsson - good going forwards, beleaguered at the back vs Downing but fortunately wasnt punished Samuel - very good, good at the back, decent going forwards Shittu - superb, absolute powerhouse at the back, and doing what i predicted in becoming our 1st choice CB by the end of the season Cahill - again, superb, well taken goal Muamba - ran...and ran...and ran...and ran, challenged well, fought everything, DO NOT SHOOT McCann - did the dirty stuff exceptionally Taylor - huge threat from set pieces, great ball to Gardner for #4, great game all round Gardner - MotM. threatened going forwards, supplemented the defence, did the tricky stuff in midfield, kept on running, superb goal Elmander - poor...needs that little break, just one, to see if he can spark, but offered very little today Davies - did what Davies does, battled, fought, excellent goal, should be a capped England player Basham - did well when he came on |
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I've always been, not so-so, but something like that, with Davies. A Bolton legend? Maybe I have been trying to compare, perhaps unfairly, with McGinlay. Can't fault him at all this season. The others I have at times bemoaned his lack of goals, despite acknowledging the excellent contribution he makes to the team but he is a striker after all. While I dont think he would necessarily 'fit' with the England team, you can't deny his credentials (especially given Heskey). At the minute he is embarassing the England hierarchy who promised to pick those on form and playing regularly for their clubs. Definately a Bolton legend. Still remember his Chesterfield hattrick in the cup at Burnden like yesterday though. The perfect captain for the club. The win? Fantastic. 4-1 justifies it enough. Even more sweeter that it is against one of the bottom 3. I pray for consistency next season. |
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Great win. he-who-shall-not-be-named is proving all the naysayers wrong. Loyalty and positivity will prevail everytime. Taylors goal was good but I thought his pass to Gardener and Gardner's goal was the biggest highlight. |
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truewhite15 Member
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i've just seen the replay of Gardner's goal, and it just gets better everytime you see it Taylor lofts it over (great cross btw), outstanding first touch from Ricky on his right, deftly makes space to shift to his left, and curls it over the head of the keeper, over the defender, into the side of the net absolutely beautiful |
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melbourne dave Member
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Of course I was away for the weekend and we win 4-1 when i don't stay up till 4am Didn't we score 4 against west ham? |
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Clarky Member
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That was 3-1... |
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great win today we are safe now i think and gardner was awesome today i also thought taylor played well as well and shittu was fantastic as well. |
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Mark08 Member
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Red White and Blue wrote: Great win. he-who-shall-not-be-named is proving all the naysayers wrong. Loyalty and positivity will prevail everytime. Taylors goal was good but I thought his pass to Gardener and Gardner's goal was the biggest highlight. yes he is but they usually stay away when we win, they'll be back with a vengeance the next time we lose or draw. one thing that he-who-shall-not-be-named hasn't been given credit for that cannot be denied is the resurgence of ricardo gardner. he's a much better winger under he-who-shall-not-be-named than he was a left back under sam. welcome back riccy  |
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Howfen White Member
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Moment of the match = Shittu running at full speed and knocking over that Taylor guy for them who had only just come on. Would be like being hit by a bus! Speaking of which, once he gets going he isn't that slow, maybe it is because it only takes him 4 or 5 steps to get back into position... reminds me of Henrik Pedersen the way he runs, once he gets going, unstoppable! |
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le god Member
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Mark08 wrote: Red White and Blue wrote:Great win. he-who-shall-not-be-named is proving all the naysayers wrong. Loyalty and positivity will prevail everytime. Taylors goal was good but I thought his pass to Gardener and Gardner's goal was the biggest highlight. Apart from the year he was the best left back in the division. Oh and last season under he-who-shall-not-be-named he was one of the worst players in white. This season he has been amazing, credit to the lad proved me wrong time and time again with great performances. |
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Mark08 Member
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le god wrote: Mark08 wrote:Red White and Blue wrote:Great win. he-who-shall-not-be-named is proving all the naysayers wrong. Loyalty and positivity will prevail everytime. Taylors goal was good but I thought his pass to Gardener and Gardner's goal was the biggest highlight. BEST left back in the premiership? i won't argue, you obviously need that contrived "fact" to bring a negative to a positive subject. well done. |
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le god Member
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Mark08 wrote:le god wrote:Mark08 wrote:Red White and Blue wrote:Great win. he-who-shall-not-be-named is proving all the naysayers wrong. Loyalty and positivity will prevail everytime. Taylors goal was good but I thought his pass to Gardener and Gardner's goal was the biggest highlight. he was in the team of the year was he not? |
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Mark08 Member
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le god wrote: Mark08 wrote: don't know. i don't pay much attention to that sort of thing, as far as i'm concerned it's not possible to accurately gauge which player is better than another over 38 games, too many factors aren't and can't be taken into account. as far as i'm concerned, gardner is and always will be an attacking player who can play at left back. also as far as i'm concerned he has played better this season in an attacking role than he played as a left back. one thing i am interested in though is that you think he's been 'amazing' this season, which superlative did you use when he was the best in the premiership? |
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le god Member
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Mark08 wrote:le god wrote:Mark08 wrote: erm.. fcuking amazing? i don't think you'll find anyone who disagrees that the 04-05 season (i think it was) he was phenomenal easily one of the best in the prem, and i don't think many will disagree that he was complete pants last season. What im trying to say is its great that he has finally found his way back to his best form... nothing negative in that. But i will defend Allardyce because he had a similarly good season under him that he's having this time around. |
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Mark08 Member
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le god wrote: Mark08 wrote: what i posted wasn't intended to be an insult to allardyce in any way, i still have an immense amount of respect for the man. he switched gardner to a problem position and gardner flourished. my point is that gardner is an attacking player first and foremost, it seems more natural to him and he looks a lot more comfortable at being back there. he-who-shall-not-be-named could have kept him at left back and given the amount of abuse that samuel has had in the past he probably would have won over a few of the idiots that claim he's bad for the club in doing so. thankfully he moved gardner back to his natural position and we've all seen the results. |
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Very happy with that win, I thought it would be a lot more difficult.. though it could have been different if Boro had taken their chances. I thought everyone played well especially Gardner, what a game he had, assist on one goal scores another and was in the center of a few other moves which could have produced something. We did what we needed to do today, which was to take our chances. A few more points and I figure we're safe. |
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Salford White Member
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....and back on topic....... Personally, I thought we didn't play that well yesterday, particularly after going one up in the first half when we looked for all the world like we were going to sit deep and hang on for grim death for 80 minutes. I still can't believe that playing against Boro, THE worst team in the division this year bar non, we had 11 players in the box to defend a corner. For God's sake, what do we do with the ball once we clear it if no one is there to run with it or hold it up??? Despite a poor performance, we ground out a good result and finally put the match to bed. At 2-1 I was still very nervous, particularly with Tuncay popping up unmarked at the edge of the box at every set piece. On another day he would have had a hat-trick. Shittu was outstanding yesterday and should get a start every week with performances like his last 3. He reads the game very well and his commitment is 100% through 90 minutes. Looking at the team yesterday, I came up with the thought that we now have the worst midfield we have had for some seasons in attacking terms and that is where the problems are being caused. Elmander is looking poorer every match and poor Smolarek must wonder what the hell he has to do to get a start. Great result, sees us safe (virtually) but call me picky, I still didn't enjoy myself like I have in past seasons and Im still not even remotely tempted to buy anoter ST. |
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Howfen White Member
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Salford White wrote: I came up with the thought that we now have the worst midfield we have had for some seasons in attacking terms What? Ricardo Gardner played out of his skin yesterday getting forward, Taylor scored and set up three of the goals and is on what, 9 goals now? Ok, Muamba has been hit and miss all season but McCann holds back, someone has to! |
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Salford White Member
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Gardner worked hard, but Im not convinced he had a great game, Taylor was absent for most of the first half, the free kick excepted. How many times did our midfield link up with our front two? How many times could Elmander have been set through one on one if only someone could spot a ball between the centra backs.....not that Elmo would have scored....... Too many times this season, our midfield has come off second best at best and at worst, seemed entirely clueless. I give you, City, West Brom, Blackburn, Fulham, Liverpool, Everton..........its a long list and thats just the home games. |
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Howfen White Member
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There is no link with the attackers yes, but there never really has been at this football club! |
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Howfen White wrote: There is no link with the attackers yes, but there never really has been at this football club! yes, 2002/2003 season |
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Djibril Member
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Howfen White wrote: Just seen this on the official site: anybody read it ? |
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Woody Member
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Have only seen highlights, agree with the praise for Gardner's goal - awesome all round. Not forgetting the cross for Davies' goal, couldn't ask for a better ball into the box. Thought Elmander did very well for Cahill's goal - a lot of players would have got that wrong. Fantastic result, that pretty much makes us safe in my book. |
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Woody wrote: Fantastic result, that pretty much makes us safe in my book. On Teletext GM says that we are now safe from relegation. IMO, the wrong thing to state. If he had said, that this has taken a lot of pressure of us, and we can now try and start playing attractive attacking football, then I would have not minded. But to say that we are safe, (in most likeliehood we most probably are), tells me more and more about GM's attitude towards his management style. It is not about winning, but surviving. Not the right way to take the club forward. So I am looking forward to a similar kind of season next year, and this is one of the things that I do not want to spend the rest of my life doing. |
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truewhite15 Member
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bdi wrote: Woody wrote:Fantastic result, that pretty much makes us safe in my book. i think thats a mis-quote, BDI listening to his interview after the match on Radio Mancs, he actually says while we're not mathematically safe, we're not safe - the result took a bit of pressure off, but we are by no means taking our foot off the gas |
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Billy Bradshaw Administrator
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Salford White wrote: Gardner worked hard, but Im not convinced he had a great game, Taylor was absent for most of the first half, the free kick excepted. But then Ronaldo was absent for about 88 minutes in the Man U game yesterday, but popped up with two goals. If one of our midfielders creates three goals and scores another, i can put up with him being absent at times. Some of the better English midfielders over the last 20 years have been guilty of going walkies during games, but they make up for it in other ways. |
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Salford White Member
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Granted Billy. Did anyone else notice that during the Newcastle match on MOTD on Saturday night, during the 8 minutes it was being shown, Nolan wasn't mentioned once?! Good bit of business that. |
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le god Member
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Don't get the elmander bashing at all.... thought he was excellent. |
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Benny_Bear 606 Veteran
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Salford White noticed:Granted Billy. Did anyone else notice that during the Newcastle match on MOTD on Saturday night, during the 8 minutes it was being shown, Nolan wasn't mentioned once?! Looks like they've found him out: http://www.newcastle.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=150134 |
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Mark08 wrote: its todd that made him the attacking player, initially he was just the left back, and i believe he still just players left back for jamaica.. but i agree, he's miles better when let off the leash.. i also think his play with samuel is getting better and better ... but of course it's samuel who gets the grief when it goes wrong |
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Billy Bradshaw Administrator
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Salford White wrote: Granted Billy. Did anyone else notice that during the Newcastle match on MOTD on Saturday night, during the 8 minutes it was being shown, Nolan wasn't mentioned once?! I have to admit that regarding Nolan, i was firmly in the 'Ok, he hasn't played that well for ages, but we play better with him on the pitch' camp. But I hold my hands up and admit i was wrong. We are better without him and I don't see any signs that he's rejuvenating Newcastle. Now I can look at his game with some neutrality, I can see what a great bit of business he-who-shall-not-be-named did!! |
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bdi wrote: Woody wrote:neither do i, i really dont think i can stomach another season of GM.Fantastic result, that pretty much makes us safe in my book. |
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Billy Bradshaw Administrator
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bdi wrote: It is not about winning, but surviving. Not the right way to take the club forward. Welcome to football in 2009. The majority of PL clubs are now 'In the PL for the sake of being in the PL'. We get to see top teams play at the Reebok. We get money from Sky that keeps us from going under. But the chances of winning some silverware are reduced with every season that goes by. There are now 5 clubs in the PL who consider themselves capable of winning the PL (I include City when they get a decent manager and spend some money). They can't all win the PL, so they have to target the FA and League Cups. They have to show something for all the money they have spent. We've discussed our disinterest in the UEFA Cup ad nauseum, so I won't do it again. The pundits don't care about anyone outside the top 4 or 5. To them, it's all about the rest providing cannon fodder for the top teams on their way to glory. At this point you have to decide whether you really want to watch football in the modern age. This is it. Even if we were a little better to watch, the fans would still be unhappy, because we are never going to win anything. |
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Salford White wrote: ....and back on topic....... Needed to post in response to Mark 08 saying we all stay away when we win but don't really have time - but as SW has said almost word for word what I think I'll just say 'ditto'. Especially the bit about Smolarek/Elmander. And the same to what bdi/Tweek say later. Billy makes a fair point about this is how top flight football is now - so I'll probably attend a few BWFC games next year, but the go to some lower league games as a neutral for my enterrtainment. |
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Billy Bradshaw wrote: Salford White wrote:Granted Billy. Did anyone else notice that during the Newcastle match on MOTD on Saturday night, during the 8 minutes it was being shown, Nolan wasn't mentioned once?! I thought this was a good deal for all concerned - seems like it was just us after all. |
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Tweek Member
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Billy Bradshaw wrote: bdi wrote:It is not about winning, but surviving. Not the right way to take the club forward. I wouldn,t be unhappy if we didn,t win anything, i dont really expect it,just relegation worry free season and a manager with a different outlook to GM |
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Billy Bradshaw Administrator
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I understand the frustration with GM, because I often feel that way myself. But we wouldn't want a Keegan-type manager that will play fancy football, but get us relegated. We need to sort out the basics first.....being regarded as a permanent PL fixture to start with. I honestly don't know if GM is the one to rebuild the team, but being clear of the relegation spots is an improvement. Should he have done better......who knows? Can he take us further forward next season? i have no idea? |
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Billy Bradshaw wrote: I understand the frustration with GM, because I often feel that way myself. If he keeps improving us season on season then we should have no room for complaints. If we end up 8th or so next season, that will be a fantastic result. To be fair, as has been previously stated, turn a few of those losses into draws and we're knocking on European football's door again. We could easily hit top half this season and that would be a fantastic performance. Some knob in the BN this mornign was saying we only have 5 players of Prem standard. Absolute tosh! We have a team of Prem standard players and a good few more in reserve. I'm expecting us to kick on again next season, playing better football and getting better results. We have been a little too inconsistent this season but I think a few of those probs will be ironed out in the summer. Getting an Arteta type player should be the main target. Everton thumped Wigan yesterday but in the main their team isn't a huge lot better than ours. They haven't looked quite as good since the lad was injured. |
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bdi Member
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truewhite15 wrote: i think thats a mis-quote, BDI Totally agree with what you are saying TW15. Trouble is , some of us supporters don't have access to Radio Manc or Granada, "unless watching Coronation Street". A lot of supporters on this Forum, live a long way from Bolton, so can only report or post from the media access, that they can receive any info from.. If this is the case, and what was posted was a misquote, then I will be the first one to step down. (Nobody loves BWFC more than me).. Whoever, post the messages on Teletext "Page 505". IMO should get a "rollicking". |
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Benny_Bear wrote: Oh no surely Sir Brookin' hasn't really been fired. Valderee you must bring him back! Just for you Benny. Meanwhile, on a phone line in London Fabio: Sir Brookin? Sir Brookin: Don Fabio? Is that you Don Fabio? Fabio: Yes , is me. You get your job back. I ring that Mugasson. I dona understand him. He is banging on and on about shirer hosses and nettles. Like I want to hire a drayman? Must be what a Jinja Tossa does, sits on a dray and looks after hosses. Sir Brookin: I'm your man then, Don Fabio. Fabio: Yes, well, then I watcha Matchathaday. That wooden goon Shirer, or is he Shirer Hoss, is parading round pretending to be a manager instead of spouting platitudes likes that other misery Lorro. Another pair of tossas. Tossas and hossas. Hah. Anyway, your boy, Tomkins. Wo'a'plyer as you say. He's in my squad. Sir Brookin: Great, Don Fabio, he won't let you down. Fabio: I also like that Bowlton plyer, Gardna, the Usain Bowlt fella. I pick him. Bowlt of Bowlton. I like it. Sir Brookin: Er, no, Don Fabio, Jamaica. Fabio: Jamaica do what? I no undastand. Sir Brookin: No, he plays for Jamaica, in the Caribbean. Fabio: Gah, typical cheating nasty unflushable Bowlton trick. You lika that word for them. I see it in When Saturday Comes. Sir Brookin: Like it, Don Fabio, I love it. All of London will love it. All the media will love it. Unflushable Bol'on. What a great day. I got my job back, Tomkins in the England squad, and a new hate name for Bol'on! |
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le god wrote: Mark08 wrote:Red White and Blue wrote:Great win. he-who-shall-not-be-named is proving all the naysayers wrong. Loyalty and positivity will prevail everytime. Taylors goal was good but I thought his pass to Gardener and Gardner's goal was the biggest highlight. Gardner had some outstanding seasons at left back, although last year was not his best. That was the best position to play him though, considering Stelios and Diouf were ideal for the wide midfield positions. But it's good to see the attacking Ricardo of seven or eight seasons ago back again. |
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