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trottskii Member 
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you know he's gona score against us,its a knocking bet imo.so why not try & cash in on this & have a little flutter on him scoring.if he scores then your laughing,if he dosnt it could be because we are putting in a performance of the season,again your laughing.its a win/win situation.i know its possable that he dosnt score & we still get stuffed,but he's done it to almost every club he's revisited. |
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Rory426 606 Veteran 
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If I was a betting man, I sure would bet on him scoring. I think we'll give it a good go, but lose 2-1. A good performance is the most important thing to me in these matches. I just hate to see teams curl up and die against the big teams. |
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trottskii Member
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agreed rory,a good account of ourselves would be a tonic & after the drubing we gave boro,who knows,tails might be up!!even thou it was a very poor boro side.would be a bonus for a couple of key players to pick up knocks on wednesdays champions league game. |
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Howfen White Member 
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After a great result against Boro, the last thing I want to see is a repeat of our performances against the other top teams this season. I really hope we have a go at them. I don't mind if we lose as long as we go there and attack rather than sitting back defending. What is the point in doing that? We're hardly going to go down on goal difference are we, so why not give it a go?! |
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NormidTerrace Member 
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And we've done terrible against the top four this time round. This is our last chance to get something off them. |
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melbourne dave Member 
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This a sat game or sunday? He will score, but davies will score 3 |
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Woody Member 
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Realistic head says defeat. But there's always a chance with us - 2-2 and 1-1 the last two years. You never know, dreaming of a point. |
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Nidgster Member
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Why are we worried about this match - it's only Chelsea, we're not expected to get a draw never mind a win. Let them worry about us - not us worry about them. We've nothing to lose. Anelka forget about - let's give him a special Bolton welcome. Lets get Basham into the side, perhaps put our reserve goally (Alhabsi) in and play a few reserves. We need our first team players for the other games. Leave Kev Davies on the bench no point getting an uneccessary booking here. |
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Frandsen08 Member 
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i'll go 2-0 to chelski lampard,and kalou |
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5-4 to Chelsea. We'll be 4-1 down at half-time... we'll come back to make it 4-4 with 1 minute left, then Chelsea will win it with the last kick of the game. |
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bdi Member 
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With a tough game tonight, hope that things might work out in our favour come Saturday. If Chelsea get a penalty appeal, then lets hope that "The Elk" takes it...he is certain to miss.   |
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D1OUFY Member 
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Going to this one. Hopefully they will be tired after tonights match. Last time I said that this season I saw Everton beat us at Goodison. Never been to Stamford Bridge so a good performance and a draw and I'd be happy! |
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Leemac12 Member 
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After watching Chelsea last night I don't hold out much hope. They were superb and contributed to a great game. But you never know...... |
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Tony Kelly IS Zico! Member 
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Could be tired? (fingers crossed) |
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Tweek Member 
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not a chance. |
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jackbwfc Member 
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One of their best strengths is in depth, so that will not help us at all |
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Catte Strophe 606 Veteran
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I see this as a fantastic opportunity for Mr he-who-shall-not-be-named and BWFC, look no-one expects us to cross the half way line so why not have a change in personnel and try out some new tactics, I would go 4-3-3 with the following: Ali Al Habsi Nicky Hunt Dan the man Shittu Gary Cahill Rick Ricardo Gardner Fab Muamba Gav McCann Matty Taylor Johan Elmander Ebi Smolarek S-K-D We may learn something and if it is all going pear shaped after 20 mins we make on sub and start again... |
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hallz Member 
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I have a feeling in my waters...
Bolton 11/1 at the bookies and thats enough to tempt me to part with my crisp £20 note... |
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Liam Member 
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For once we have to go with the Bully title. 3 tough tackles early on and Chelski players will wimp out the game for fear of not playing against Liverpool in the next game. TBH though I'm sick of hoping against the big teams. We lose, then it's expected. People try not to go in to a mood-swing because we lose at Stamford Bridge against a Gus Hiddink team that has spent vast sums of money and appear to be on corse for the CL Semi. |
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Sprout Member 
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If we win would be a really great Easter and potentially herld a strong season end. If we lose then what the heck it's Chelsea away. As long as the players show a bit of heart. |
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Billy Bradshaw Administrator 
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Sprout wrote: As long as the players show a bit of heart. But if we lose, maybe we should show them a bit of arse?  Tbh.....if we lose a goal early on, i expect our heads to drop. But anything from this game would be a bonus. It's also the sort of game where if we push them, it will be good for morale.....but if we lose, they won't be too down because it's Chelsea away. |
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Tweek Member
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Catte Strophe wrote: I see this as a fantastic opportunity for Mr he-who-shall-not-be-named and BWFC, look no-one expects us to cross the half way line so why not have a change in personnel and try out some new tactics, I would go 4-3-3 with the following:why would GM change the goalkeeper? |
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Billy Bradshaw Administrator
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It would be rare for any manager to change the team for a league game, because we might not win that league game anyway. there's a distinct difference when changing a team for a cup game when the league is more important. |
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Woody Member
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Can't understand why anyone is suggesting change the team? We've got as good a record there as anyone really, losing only once in the last five seasons. We've as much of a chance as anyone - anyone suggesting rest Davies should be shot. |
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Catte Strophe 606 Veteran
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Was a little tongue in cheek but I have SKD in the team and even up front.. I would like GM to give more than 10 minutes to some of the fringe players like Ali Al Habsi and Ebi Smolarek, for Ali I expect to see more of next year and Smolarek and Riga well we really need to know what they do for a living before we send them back. I read the piece during the week about GM's comments regarding changing a winning team and Dan the man keeping his spot, so I kept him in and suggested a few changes.. kind of hoped for more of a reaction, as I am currently reviewing documents and it is very very dull not even any pictures.. |
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pfk505 Member 
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No changes, please. he-who-shall-not-be-named has established that he doesnt change winning sides, unless due to injury. Can't say I always agree, but at this time why not. Its not like we've got any better options waiting in the wings. |
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bdi Member
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hallz wrote: I have a feeling in my waters... Agree hallz, Maybe after the Lord Mayors show against Liverpool last night, Chelsea might be thinking that they have only to come out onto the pitch, and the game is won. If we show a bit of backbone, like we have done the last 2 games at Stamford Bridge, then I can see us coming out of the game with something. Best of luck with your £20, hope that it pays dividends.  |
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Woody Member
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Anyone else been watching Setanta news today? "Bolton haven't won there since 1997." Dedicated sports news channel getting simple facts wrong does my head right in. We last won there in 2003 and the previous one to that, according to my source (probably the best BW source on the net - http://www.geocities.com/nigelsheppard/bwfc/C1/page5.html ) we hadn't won since the 70's! Where on earth does 1997 come from?! Last edited on Thu Apr 9th, 2009 06:09 pm by Woody |
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Sprout Member
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Woody wrote: Anyone else been watching Setanta news today? Sounds about right. I seem to remeber seeing them win once just before Christmas. Can't remember the year but I was living in London and didn't move there 'til '99. |
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Liam Member
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don't you get it. We're slowly being expunged from the records. A bit like Wimbledon. |
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Legend Member
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Previous league win before 2003 seems to be 1975 in 2nd division : 1-0 Greaves. Only met twice in league during 90's : 2-3 (Curcic goal), 0-2 (relegation day). Haven't been to Stamford Bridge in a Cup since 1972 : 0-3. [courtesy of BWFC stats site] Last edited on Fri Apr 10th, 2009 10:49 am by Legend |
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The Bullet Member 
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I can see us getting a positive result here. Chelsea will be on a high after their last game and possibly fail to motivate themselves against us. I also think that they will not want to get involved with us 'bruisers' so we should win our individual battles. We will have had a lot of weight taken of our minds so we will play with freedom. I can see us getting a draw if we do our jobs properly. A win with a bit of luck. Ill come back on and apologise if I really get it wrong!!! |
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Andy Walsh Member 
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The Bullet wrote: I can see us getting a positive result here. Chelsea will be on a high after their last game and possibly fail to motivate themselves against us. I also think that they will not want to get involved with us 'bruisers' so we should win our individual battles. Bullet? Is that you? |
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Bolton Bolton Member 
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I can see us getting a draw here. We will play well today, I can feel it |
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The Bullet Member
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Andy Walsh wrote:The Bullet wrote:I can see us getting a positive result here. Chelsea will be on a high after their last game and possibly fail to motivate themselves against us. I also think that they will not want to get involved with us 'bruisers' so we should win our individual battles. I've found Jesus. |
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Howfen White Member
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The Bullet wrote: Andy Walsh wrote: So THATS where you've been! I can't see us getting anything from this, 2 or 3-0 to them. Would be great if we could manage a draw. If anyone has a link to a steam please post as soon as! |
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cardiffwhite Member
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Liam wrote: don't you get it. We're slowly being expunged from the records. A bit like Wimbledon. God I hope not.... in 10 years time the Wanderers could be playing in league 1 based in Warrington/Runcorn New Town, whilst 1,000 hardy souls see Bolton FC kick-off in the Northern Premier against Droylesden.  |
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Frankie Administrator 
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Team * 22 Jaaskelainen * 15 Steinsson * 05 Cahill * 24 Shittu * 03 Samuel * 06 Muamba * 19 McCann * 11 Gardner * 14 Davies * 09 Elmander * 07 Taylor Substitutes * 26 Al Habsi, * 02 Hunt, * 10 Smolarek, * 18 Puygrenier, * 25 Cohen, * 30 Basham, * 31 O'Brien |
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le god Member 
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He's left Cohen on the bench???? strange. |
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le god wrote: He's left Cohen on the bench???? strange. Yeh, He would be the first name on the teamsheet |
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le god Member
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Frankie wrote:le god wrote:He's left Cohen on the bench???? strange.  |
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Mikel19 Member 
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This is working at the moment http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sat11.4/Chelsea_Bolton2.html Don't know for how long though! |
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Frankie Administrator
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Mikel19 wrote: This is working at the moment Got Fox Sports HD via my Lappy into my TV ... sorted |
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Mark08 Member 
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The Bullet wrote: Andy Walsh wrote: he was always crap at hide n seek. Last edited on Sat Apr 11th, 2009 01:48 pm by Mark08 |
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Mark08 Member
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Mikel19 wrote: This is working at the moment if that doesn't work this does. http://www.veetle.com/viewChannel.php?cid=49defd7f754fc shh, dont tell anyone else though be careful though, warren barton is saying that he-who-shall-not-be-named has done a pretty good job at bolton.....if you're a ginger hater, turn the sound off and put the bbc on  Last edited on Sat Apr 11th, 2009 01:57 pm by Mark08 |
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Dezza Member 
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http://www.justin.tv/psn4k this works if the other two dont |
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Howfen White Member
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Links aren't working for me, but according to Paul Merson on Sky Sports, Phil Jagielka is in nets for us! |
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Cromy Member 
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i just heard that... what a tool! but also he says we are the better side |
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Howfen White Member
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So... whats going on? |
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Mark08 Member
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think 'zulu'  |
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Howfen White Member
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Kalou????? |
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Howfen White Member
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Kalou????? |
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Dezza Member
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these commentators are doing my head on loseing 1-0 |
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Cromy Member
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1-0 bollock |
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Howfen White Member
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I'm sure some players come to this league to play well and/or score just against us. Michael Bollock is one of them! |
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Dezza Member
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dan shittu is on the floor in pain |
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Woody Member
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Bit gutting really, despite them having a lot of possession they weren't troubling us too much. Would've been interesting if we could have kept it 0-0 till half time. |
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le god Member
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Shittu gave it away then as we've seen many times this season marking people in the middle of the box isn't something you would call our forte! |
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Dezza Member
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OMG AOB might me comeing on |
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Woody Member
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Davies so close! Thought that was in. |
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Frankie Administrator
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Woody wrote: Davies so close! Thought that was in. Agreed |
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Cromy Member
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Frankie wrote: Woody wrote:Davies so close! Thought that was in. me also  COYWM |
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Howfen White Member
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Sounds like we've been doing pretty well. That's all I ask for really, for us to have a go at them and maybe nick something! |
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le god Member
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We're doing pretty well on my stream, Though Taylor has been about to take this free kick for about 15 minutes.... think maybe its stuck.. |
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observer Member
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Not as close as it may sound. We had a good first 10 minutes and we have been on our heels for the past 35 minutes. Our passing is abysmal. Shittu left Ballack uncovered and you could feel the goal coming. Davies has been great... all over the field... pushing and fighting. His shot just missed the upper corner. Elmander has been bloody awful in his shot selection. Muamba should not be allowed to put his boot to the ball and shoot. he-who-shall-not-be-named should have replaced Shittu when he was injured. We played 3 minutes with 10 men. Poor decision since we were on the attack at the end. Pretty decent refereeing in this first half... we got a big break when Cole did not get a penalty call... very close indeed since he was tripped but he was going down anyway. |
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Mark08 Member
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"why are you in my yard?" "why are YOU in your yard?"  |
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observer wrote: Not as close as it may sound. We had a good first 10 minutes and we have been on our heels for the past 35 minutes. Our passing is abysmal. Shittu left Ballack uncovered and you could feel the goal coming. Davies has been great... all over the field... pushing and fighting. His shot just missed the upper corner. Elmander has been bloody awful in his shot selection. Muamba should not be allowed to put his boot to the ball and shoot. he-who-shall-not-be-named should have replaced Shittu when he was injured. We played 3 minutes with 10 men. Poor decision since we were on the attack at the end. Pretty decent refereeing in this first half... we got a big break when Cole did not get a penalty call... very close indeed since he was tripped but he was going down anyway. ^^^^^^^ there's the 'chicken little' summary. here's mine..... we've done ok, shot's off-target for both teams, dodgy passing from both teams. elmander was unlucky with one snap shot that he took, if he had a bit more time to think about it then it might have been different, it come onto him very quickly. davies very unlucky not to score. also some ropey defending from us, as we've come to expect from whoever plays alongside cahill. both teams have had their chances to score. could still go either way. Last edited on Sat Apr 11th, 2009 03:04 pm by Mark08 |
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Frankie Administrator
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Oh dear !!!!! AoB on |
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Howfen White Member
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barsteward |
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Woody Member
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game over. |
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Frankie Administrator
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Drogba scores |
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Cromy Member
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drogba 2 |
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Mark08 Member
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Chelsea are gonna win this. FACT.  |
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Frankie Administrator
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Nobody in white picked him up I've seen better marking on Leverhulme Park !!! |
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Woody Member
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As long as Lampard doesn't score I'll be happy now. |
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Howfen White Member
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I love this. He probably wasn't at fault but who cares: Frankie @ 4:07 - Andy O'Brien on Frankie @ 4:10 - 2-0 Drogba |
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Howfen White Member
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bloody hell 1-1 Sunderland! |
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le god Member
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Competing means defending as well.. don't think we realised that. |
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Bolton Bolton Member
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Lapses in concentration have cost us again. We have got away with it recently but against teams of this quality, its not going to happen. |
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Dezza Member
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2-0 come on bolton get a goal Last edited on Sat Apr 11th, 2009 03:16 pm by Dezza |
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Woody Member
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Our ball retention is absolutely embarrassing at times. |
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Mark08 Member
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is that an ad with a post or a post with an ad? |
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le god Member
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2-0 down... maybe time to stop playing this formation Jussi rest of team Elmander. |
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Frankie Administrator
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We couldn't get more battered if we where playing in a Chippy !!!! |
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Dezza Member
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http://mushisports.blogspot.com/ working well dont install the active x thing second video down |
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Howfen White Member
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Gonna be 3-0, my prediction was correct! |
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Dezza Member
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FFS pentaly |
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Cromy Member
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3-0 lamps pen |
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Frankie Administrator
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Howfen White wrote: I love this. He probably wasn't at fault but who cares: I am not that much of a prophet it was 5:07 and 5:10 Anyway penalty and Fat Frank scores ~!!! |
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le god Member
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Ref is cnut pure and simple. |
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Howfen White Member
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le god wrote: 2-0 down... maybe time to stop playing this formation We've been playing that for about 8 years now, with Davies on his own before Elmander joined |
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Dezza Member
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if we can win this match i will give he-who-shall-not-be-named 5k |
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Howfen White Member
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Glad West Brom are winning, keeps Portsmouth in it |
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Woody Member
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I think he's got nearly every decision wrong. Ashley Cole pen - not given. Steinsson not pen - given. McCann foul - not given. McCann clean tackle - freekick given. clueless. |
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Mikel19 Member
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Peter Walton again! |
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Andy Walsh Member
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Awful, awful decision |
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Frankie Administrator
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Drogba 4 |
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Howfen White Member
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Mikel19 wrote: Peter Walton again! 2nd worst ref in the league after Rob Styles, even Mike Riley gets more decisions right than him. |
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Dezza Member
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OMFG |
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xxxxxx Member
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Can we give the game to Chelsea now so that our goal difference doesn't get any worse? |
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Woody Member
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Like those players in white, I've given up. Shocking defending. |
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Howfen White Member
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Why do we always curl up and die against big teams? |
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Frankie Administrator
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Basham to come on |
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Anish Member 
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Anelka for Drogba, surely he'll score a couple |
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Mark08 Member
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Howfen White wrote: Why do we always curl up and die against big teams? we don't |
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Liam Member
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we're in for a pasting here boys. he-who-shall-not-be-named might as well throw the white towel on the pitch now, Chelski are brimming with confidence. Hiddink will hopefully sub some players now... hopefully we'll give Smolarek a run if he's on the bench. This game is done. It was at Stamford Bridge, they're high on confidence and are a superior side. That's why we've lost. |
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Howfen White Member
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Mark08 wrote: Howfen White wrote:Why do we always curl up and die against big teams? Please expand... |
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Dezza Member
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ok imstead of me saying we're win 3-0 can i change it to chelsea to win 6-0 |
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Mark08 wrote: observer wrote:I can see you walking down the yellow brick road with rose colored glasses. You really thought we had a chance in the 2nd half? Chelsea has made us look like the Egyptian army going backwards in the 6 day war. We held on in the 1st half, barely. The floodgates have now opened. Fortunately we only need one win in the remaining 6 games. This will not help our confidence or our GD.Not as close as it may sound. We had a good first 10 minutes and we have been on our heels for the past 35 minutes. Our passing is abysmal. Shittu left Ballack uncovered and you could feel the goal coming. Davies has been great... all over the field... pushing and fighting. His shot just missed the upper corner. Elmander has been bloody awful in his shot selection. Muamba should not be allowed to put his boot to the ball and shoot. he-who-shall-not-be-named should have replaced Shittu when he was injured. We played 3 minutes with 10 men. Poor decision since we were on the attack at the end. Pretty decent refereeing in this first half... we got a big break when Cole did not get a penalty call... very close indeed since he was tripped but he was going down anyway. |
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Frankie Administrator
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Woody wrote: As long as Lampard doesn't score I'll be happy now. Enjoy ya evening |
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Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:Why do we always curl up and die against big teams? |
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Frankie Administrator
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AoB gets one back !! |
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Mark08 Member
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observer wrote: Mark08 wrote:observer wrote:I can see you walking down the yellow brick road with rose colored glasses. You really thought we had a chance in the 2nd half? Chelsea has made us look like the Egyptian army going backwards in the 6 day war. We held on in the 1st half, barely. The floodgates have now opened. Fortunately we only need one win in the remaining 6 games. This will not help our confidence or our GD.Not as close as it may sound. We had a good first 10 minutes and we have been on our heels for the past 35 minutes. Our passing is abysmal. Shittu left Ballack uncovered and you could feel the goal coming. Davies has been great... all over the field... pushing and fighting. His shot just missed the upper corner. Elmander has been bloody awful in his shot selection. Muamba should not be allowed to put his boot to the ball and shoot. he-who-shall-not-be-named should have replaced Shittu when he was injured. We played 3 minutes with 10 men. Poor decision since we were on the attack at the end. Pretty decent refereeing in this first half... we got a big break when Cole did not get a penalty call... very close indeed since he was tripped but he was going down anyway. yellow brick road, rose coloured.......  |
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Cromy Member
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4-1 come back on! |
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le god Member
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We don't ALWAYS curl up and die against the big teams, look at Old Trafford this season, good performance. But we have today, no question, good effort for 20 minutes but if you don't do the simple things right at chelsea your gonna get battered and we have been humiliated. Don't forget they took the piss out of Liverpool in midweek so its no disgrace but i am still feeling absolutely furious at the pointless nature of these games. |
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Liam Member
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ha ha ha ha ha ha! good old AOB! |
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Howfen White Member
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Frankie wrote: AoB gets one back !! That his first goal for us? |
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Mark08 Member
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Howfen White wrote: Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:Why do we always curl up and die against big teams? this season...... lost 1-0 to utd lost 1-0 to arsenal lost 2-0 to chelsea cant be bothered with the rest but 3-1 is the worst apart from this.....hardly 'curling up and dying' is it? we lost to them and on 2 occasions, lost by a narrow margin. Last edited on Sat Apr 11th, 2009 03:34 pm by Mark08 |
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le god Member
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Genius sub! lol |
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Howfen White Member
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le god wrote: Don't forget they took the piss out of Liverpool in midweek so its no disgrace but i am still feeling absolutely furious at the pointless nature of these games. That's why I've decided to boycott any away match against a top 4 team. I've been to three of the four this season and come away disappointed each time so I'm not bothering anymore. Will save my money for games where we might see some good football and get a result. |
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Cromy Member
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4-2 |
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Mark08 Member
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Howfen White wrote: le god wrote:Don't forget they took the piss out of Liverpool in midweek so its no disgrace but i am still feeling absolutely furious at the pointless nature of these games. so have most of the league. Last edited on Sat Apr 11th, 2009 03:37 pm by Mark08 |
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Cromy Member
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Basham first goal for the club? |
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Liam Member
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get in! Basham for England. Seriously, why doesn't this kid start every week. Since he came on for Elmander we've looked the better side! |
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Mark08 Member
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if this is curling up and dying then i hope we do it every week |
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Howfen White Member
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Mark08 wrote: Howfen White wrote:Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:Why do we always curl up and die against big teams? 'Cant be bothered with the rest' is that because we got totally anihilated by Liverpool? We had absolutely no chance of winning at Arsenal or Old Trafford with our tactics, defending like mad and not having a go. Whether it's 1-0 or 4-0, our negativity in these matches means we're not coming away with any points. I don't give a toss about goal difference, I would much rather us have a go in all of these games and maybe get a draw or win, and lose the rest just because of goal difference. |
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Cromy wrote: Basham first goal for the club? I reckon, great assist from Davo |
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perhaps if we had changed things round when it was only 2 0....just perhaps! |
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Howfen White Member
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Mark08 wrote: Howfen White wrote:le god wrote:Don't forget they took the piss out of Liverpool in midweek so its no disgrace but i am still feeling absolutely furious at the pointless nature of these games. Off the top of my head, I bet Hull City weren't when they managed 3 goals at Old Trafford, won at Arsenal and I think they managed a draw at Liverpool. They proved that by attacking the top teams you can get something from them. |
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Mark08 Member
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Howfen White wrote: Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:Why do we always curl up and die against big teams? no it's not because we were 'annihilated' by liverpool, you said we 'ALWAYS curl up and die'. we don't and any sane person would see those scores and realise that it's completely untrue. |
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Dezza Member
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yes yes 4-3 |
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Mark08 Member
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Howfen White wrote: Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:le god wrote:Don't forget they took the piss out of Liverpool in midweek so its no disgrace but i am still feeling absolutely furious at the pointless nature of these games. do you want to go and find all the teams that HAVEN'T done what hull have? i bet you find more that haven't than those that have. anyway, i can't be bothered with this conversation......i'm gonna watch us 'curl up and die' Last edited on Sat Apr 11th, 2009 03:41 pm by Mark08 |
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Howfen White Member
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Mark08 wrote: Howfen White wrote:Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:Why do we always curl up and die against big teams? How's about for once in your life on this forum you put a solution across rather than criticising others? I can't believe it's 4-3 now by the way |
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Cromy Member
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Liam Member
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YEEEEEEEES! Taylor! come on, keep curling up and dying!!!!! brilliant! |
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Frankie Administrator
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Route 1 but who cares |
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le god Member
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Honestly did anyone see us scoring 3? lol?? i thought if we stayed here for 15 years we'd stuggle to get 1 |
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surely we can get a draw now!! |
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Frankie Administrator
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Rollover aginst the " Big 4 " My ARSE !!!! |
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xxxxxx Member
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Lol. WTF is happening? |
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Howfen White Member
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Liam wrote: YEEEEEEEES! Before you start trying to take the piss out of my posts, I refer to yours about 20 minutes ago below: Liam wrote: we're in for a pasting here boys. |
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Mark08 Member
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Howfen White wrote: Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:Why do we always curl up and die against big teams? ok i'm sorry, here's a solution..... i'm gonna boycott all away games because we ALWAYS curl up and die |
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Howfen White Member
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Mark08 wrote: Howfen White wrote:Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:Why do we always curl up and die against big teams? See, you can't provide an alternative to what we usually do, because you're too inept. You just spend your time identifying faults in others without providing a solution. |
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Mikel19 Member
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The commentators are even being complimentary about us! |
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Frankie Administrator
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Howfen White wrote: Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:le god wrote:Don't forget they took the piss out of Liverpool in midweek so its no disgrace but i am still feeling absolutely furious at the pointless nature of these games. No but they have been utter crap against everyone else! |
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Mikel19 Member
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Cohen now I've seen everything! |
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Mark08 Member
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Howfen White wrote: Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:Why do we always curl up and die against big teams? awww bless you. you think that internet forums are all about providing solutions? come on now sweetheart, go grab your handbag and podwer your nose.....it might give you some time to calm down. |
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Howfen White Member
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Andy Walsh wrote: Howfen White wrote:Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:le god wrote:Don't forget they took the piss out of Liverpool in midweek so its no disgrace but i am still feeling absolutely furious at the pointless nature of these games. That isn't my point. My point is against the TOP 4 teams. |
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le god Member
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Even the most optimistic person would agree at 4-0 we were playing like a bag of shite, anyone looks smart with hindsight. |
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Howfen White Member
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Mark08 wrote:
An internet forum is about discussing the game and how and why we're going wrong. That is what I'm doing. All you do is point out the faults of other posters on here. What are the point of your posts on here? |
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Andy Walsh Member
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Howfen White wrote: Andy Walsh wrote:Howfen White wrote:Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:le god wrote:Don't forget they took the piss out of Liverpool in midweek so its no disgrace but i am still feeling absolutely furious at the pointless nature of these games. I'd rather lose to United, Liverpool etc than West Brom or Boro! That's my point. Doesn't matter what happens against the big boys. |
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Liam Member
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Howfen White wrote: Liam wrote:???YEEEEEEEES! What I said was exactly right. Cheslki with Drogba and Lampard on were pasting us. Hiddink made the change I hoped they would, he-who-shall-not-be-named removed Elmander.... all in all, good post!  Chill out laddo. |
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Howfen White Member
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Liam wrote: Howfen White wrote:Liam wrote:???YEEEEEEEES! You were having a pop at my post. |
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le god Member
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The reason i fcuking hate losing to the top 4 is because it highlights just how good they are and how much money they have.... AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
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Woody Member
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4th goes in...... I go to make a brew. Come back to this?! Christ. |
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Mark08 Member
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Howfen White wrote: Mark08 wrote: if nobody disagreed and pointed out the mistakes then it'd be a bit boring. next question? |
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Frankie Administrator
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Howfen White Member
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Mark08 wrote: Howfen White wrote:Mark08 wrote: It's ok to disagree, that's what a forum is all about. What I don't find acceptable is when people disagree, but provide no reason or alternative as to what we should do. |
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Mark08 Member
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Howfen White wrote: Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:Mark08 wrote: you're boring me now. i got it, you don't like people questioning your comments and you take it personally. no problem, i won't do it again, sorry to hurt your feelings xx Last edited on Sat Apr 11th, 2009 03:55 pm by Mark08 |
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Mark08 wrote: Howfen White wrote:Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:Mark08 wrote: and you two are boring me Last edited on Sat Apr 11th, 2009 03:56 pm by Frankie |
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Howfen White Member
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Mark08 wrote: Howfen White wrote:Mark08 wrote:Howfen White wrote:Mark08 wrote: No, you don't get it. I don't mind being questionned, I don't mind people disagreeing, as long as they contribute something to the forum rather than just saying 'no we dont' or 'I disagree'. Who is going to read that and think 'wow, what a great contributor to this forum'? |
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Cromy Member
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oooh cahill shot cleared off line with jussi up front! 4-3 ft |
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le god Member
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Oh well at least we've proved we are complete crap but at times also quite good.... Sums up the season really. |
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All over ... not a bad last 20 mins |
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Liam Member
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great game over all. |
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Amazing second half. Showed a lot of fight at the end |
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Cromy wrote: oooh cahill shot cleared off line with jussi up front! Paul Merson couldn't get his words out so I assumed we did come close! |
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Absolutely brilliant fight back. Nearly got a draw as well. |
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Mark08 Member
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what a game. dead and buried at half time. if we show that same passion in the remaining games then we'll have a great chance of a top half finish. |
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le god Member
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Seriously if we got a "top" defensive coach to come in and train with us for the next 2 years we might actually see some improvement. Such basic errors i've seen this season. Why when someone crosses the ball flat on the ground from the wing is their always people unmarked?? Schoolboy stuff. Oh well. |
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Woody Member
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The lucky twits. |
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Liam Member
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Basham has to start in the next game. Elmander has to be dropped. |
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Mikel19 Member
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"The most extraordinary game of the season!" Nice to hear commentators being nice towards us. But seriously that was a game and a half! |
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When I said I wanted us to have a go at them, I wasn't thinking we'd wait an hour before we started. Overall though, what a game! Not many people go 4-0 at Stamford Bridge and keep fighting, nevermind get 3 back! Fantastic spirit. |
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le god Member
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Pompey away now looks winnable... please don't let me down lads. |
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le god wrote: Seriously if we got a "top" defensive coach to come in and train with us for the next 2 years we might actually see some improvement. Such basic errors i've seen this season. yeah and another AOB dodgey backpass |
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Taking Elmander out and putting the kids in was brilliant by he-who-shall-not-be-named. Now we have momentum going into the final 6 weeks. This will inspire the team immensely. Basham needs to start. AOB needs to learn how to pass the ball back to Jussi without an opposition player getting between them. Brilliant finish... thought he blew the whistle a tad early with all the delaying Chelsea did in stoppage time. |
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Liam wrote: Basham has to start in the next game. Elmander has to be dropped. i agree that elmander has to be dropped, i'm sure he'll come good but at the moment he isn't being challenged for his place and maybe that's why it's taking longer than expected. |
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Liam Member
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reminiscent of the Bayern game, manager thinks it's won, takes off their best players and we almost make them pay. |
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At least the 'confidence factor' won't be affected after that, we can go in against Portsmouth with our heads held high. Hopefully get 3 points against them seeing as they only managed a draw against West Brom today |
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Mark08 wrote:Liam wrote:Basham has to start in the next game. Elmander has to be dropped. To be fair to Elmo he was about 4 and a half miles away from the midfield, even Drogba would have struggled to impact that game in our team. |
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Liam Member
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I think this must be the first time in 2 seasons where we are happy with a game which we lost. I think this is what most have wanted. Effort and giving it a go. I mean come on, we had Jussi challenging for the ball. |
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Dezza wrote: le god wrote:He nearly cost us at the end. We were close to drawing and were very unlucky Cahills shot was deflected wide.Seriously if we got a "top" defensive coach to come in and train with us for the next 2 years we might actually see some improvement. Such basic errors i've seen this season. A'OB has to cut these errors out of his game if he is to be here next season. |
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Mark08 Member
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le god wrote: Mark08 wrote: i realise that, that's why i still have some faith that he'll come good, but if he-who-shall-not-be-named insists on playing that formation, he has to play davies up there, he's the only one that can do it. |
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Howfen White wrote: At least the 'confidence factor' won't be affected after that, we can go in against Portsmouth with our heads held high. Hopefully get 3 points against them seeing as they only managed a draw against West Brom today I think the confidence could have easily been shot at 4-0 down, but the belief should be sky-high after managing to score 3 in 9 minutes in the second half. Fantastic effort, and we'll beat Pompey. (Fact. ) |
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Rory426 wrote: Howfen White wrote:At least the 'confidence factor' won't be affected after that, we can go in against Portsmouth with our heads held high. Hopefully get 3 points against them seeing as they only managed a draw against West Brom today nooooooo, the 'fact' thing only works when you want the opposite to happen..... it worked for xxxxxx last week and nearly come good for me today. pompey will win. fact. |
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Mark08 wrote:le god wrote:Mark08 wrote: I agree with you I'm one of the few who thinks Elmander is a cracking player, You'd need to be WORLD CLASS to control a game in the conditions he had today. Needs more support and I'm sure he would have had it if it wasn't Chelsea. Shame really, Absolutely stunned by that performance at 4-0 Chelsea were literally taking the piss out of us and we LITERALLY not marking any of their players. 4-3 and completely on top 15 minutes later.... totally and utterly stunned. |
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Rory426 wrote: Howfen White wrote:At least the 'confidence factor' won't be affected after that, we can go in against Portsmouth with our heads held high. Hopefully get 3 points against them seeing as they only managed a draw against West Brom today Yeah exactly. Just looked at the table, I think we'll definitely be safe if we beat Portsmouth. |
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Liam wrote: reminiscent of the Bayern game, manager thinks it's won, takes off their best players and we almost make them pay. Agreed. |
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Unbelievable.. Havent seen a resurgence like that from us in God knows how long. Brilliant stuff, would have been a miracle had we managed a draw though. Hopefully confidence will be sky high after that. |
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Howfen White wrote: Cromy wrote:oooh cahill shot cleared off line with jussi up front! I heard the clint shout 'goal' and started to go crazy, only for the missus to start laughing when he followed it with 'off the line'. The highs and lows of supporting a football team. Didn't see any of the game and only walked in at 4-0. I was convinced we were going to get a point when Matty scored the third. |
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great effort to come back and to score 3 goals v a team like chelsea is fantastic i'm not unhappy at all that we lost because of the effort the players showed to come back. |
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Mark08 wrote:
Today was another example of how we can play when we go 4-4-2, we kept the ball a lot better, with Gardner and Taylor on the wings there is a lot of running and width which creates options. I won't say we should go 4-4-2 all the time, but it's nice to have two different styles. |
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Left the gym at 4-0, got home about 10mins later turned on sky and its 4-3!!! Could not believe it!!! |
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le god wrote: Mark08 wrote:Have to agree on Elmander. He will come good next season, i am sure of it. I think we need to adjust our play slightly for him to play to his strengths, but he has some good attributes. I really hope that with the summer break and his injuries behind him, we see the real Elmander next season. |
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Woody wrote: Mark08 wrote: who said he-who-shall-not-be-named doesn't have a plan b?  |
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Liam Member
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ang on!!!! didn't they have a dodgy pen awarded.... lets all moan about that. It should have been 3-3. But then AOB's wsa off-side. |
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Chim chimney, chim chimney, Chim-chim chiroo, Who needs John Terry when we've got Shittu! |
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only listened to sky sports for match reports thought we had scored in last minute nearly went through the ceiling great fight back and no shame in the defeat well done to the lads |
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Tricky Trevor wrote: I heard the clint shout 'goal' and started to go crazy, only for the missus to start laughing when he followed it with 'off the line'. The highs and lows of supporting a football team.I take it she'll be telling the folks at work on Monday morning she walked into a cupboard door.............? |
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I put 4-4 on the predictions for a laugh, but bloody hell i was close. Cracking game, shame we didn't come out with anything really, although we were the worst team for a good percentage of the game, probably a point would have been undeserved. If we can do that against Chelsea, then we can beat most of the other teams in the league. Overall, happy with the game and result, although it brings no points. Onwards and upwards. |
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Liam wrote: ang on!!!! didn't they have a dodgy pen awarded.... lets all moan about that. It should have been 3-3. As Meggo pointed out on Sky, Walton's given 3 handball penalties against us this year, and one wasn't even in the box. Probably a fine heading to GM this week, but it's a good point |
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le god Member
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Our third goal was quality... never touched the floor, I'm sorry but that is quality. How many goals has Tay Tay Tay Tay TAYlor got now, because if its 10 then that is quality. Also Basham is fcuking QUALITY, Him and Mark Davies in the middle sounds good... might actually see some passing. We need, CB, LB CM... as a matter of urgency in the summer. |
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le god wrote: Our third goal was quality... never touched the floor, I'm sorry but that is quality. I'd say CB is the most vital of those too.. someone with prem experience is a must. That position more that any other demands premiership experience. It cant benefit Cahill to have a revolving door of players partnering him. Get in someone of comparable ability and we'll stop shipping so many goals, guaranteed. I see why Samuel gets criticized, he has been inconsistent, but at times he really is good defensively. His lack of pace is what hurts him most, I think positionally he's decent. Steinsson is the opposite, lacking in defensive/positional ability but an asset going forward (most of the time). I think against Portsmouth I'd like to see us go 4-5-1 with Davies up top, Taylor & Gardner wide, Muamba-McCann-Basham in the middle. Elmo to come on as sub if needed. I still like him but am unsure if we can get the best out of him with our system. |
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pfk505 wrote:le god wrote:Our third goal was quality... never touched the floor, I'm sorry but that is quality. We said the same about Anelka when he first came in, i remember seeing him at Pompey (funnily enough) one of his first games (anelka this is) and he touched the ball maybe once the whole game, totally at odds with our strategy. By the time he left he was banging them in. To be honest i think elmo has adapted much quicker, he actually knows that he won't be hitting 20 goals a season in this team and that he'll have to work hard all over the pitch to be a success. Don't see why he's getting so much stick, he's missed a couple of chances in the last 2 games.. big deal... we've missed loads of chances this season. Can't compare his misses to some of the fcukin awful howlers we've seen at the back.. there were 3 today! |
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can we have a "well done" heading to he-who-shall-not-be-named for (oh-so-nearly) turning our biggest defeat of the season into our biggest come back? oh, sorry, course, in spite of him... im sorry, but im genuinely pissed off with some of you on here, constantly banging on about doing poorly against the Big Boys, like spoilt brats from the Allardyce era, we are never expected to get anything against the likes of Chelsea, Arsenal and the like, we came within a whisker of getting well defended points vs Arsenal away and United at home, we were a match for United until Rob Styles intervened at their place, against Arsenal at home the place was rocking because of the performance we were putting in - "having a go", i think you call it and now, from what ive been reading, at Stamford Bridge, we were on top for the first 20 minutes (and this is from neutrals on the BBC), Chelsea stepped it up to get to 4-0 (as they can do against anybody, not just us, for all those that were saying "oh, fecks sake, we ALWAYS roll over" and all that bollocks), and then we turned it around, we were the better team (again, from neutral sources) in the last 20 minutes, and brought it back to 4-3 - i dont give a damn what you say about he-who-shall-not-be-named and all your negative bull, but to go to Stamford Bridge and score three goals is remarkable, and we SHOULD be genuinely proud of the lads tonight |
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If you saw how we were playing at 4-0 you'd have been saying the same things... as i said earlier its easy to call people out with hindsight isn't it... We could get relegated this season then people could come on here and say all you people being positive about he-who-shall-not-be-named are nobs ner ner... To be honest i'd rather talk about the football than all this told you so rubbish. It was a great effort to get back to 4-3 today don't think anyone has said anything different. |
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Does Elmander look heavy and out of shape to those who can see him in person? I know television adds pounds, but he seemed to be chugging and the weight constantly seems to keep him off-balance... hence the awful attempts. I wish Cahill's shot had gone in at the death... inches from a draw two years in a row at Stamford Bridge. As much as I discredit he-who-shall-not-be-named's tactics, he was spot on with his substitutions today. Basham was really terrific. Matty Taylor is always dangerous on the pitch and he is fun to watch. If we had Mark Davies back from injury we might have shown more fight. For those who say KD had an off day, I thought he worked his backside off. He is a scrapper and an immovable force in the box. To me, Elmander is the odd man out. He really looks like he is laboring coming down the pitch. Let's not kid ourselves... Chelsea man for man is a lot better team than we are. So are Arsenal, Man U and Liverpool. Had he-who-shall-not-be-named not been so defensive against Arsenal and Man U we might have shown more spirit. Even then it took Rob Styles to knock us down at Man U... and an 80th plus goal to lose to Arsenal. The problem we have is consistency. The Fulham and Stoke matches were pathetic. We need more efforts like the last 20 minutes today. One more win and we secure a 9th EPL year. Good effort by the team for 40 minutes today... lots to cheer about... but we really could have a nicked a point at the death. Alas! Last edited on Sat Apr 11th, 2009 10:04 pm by observer |
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MotD - Chelsea #1 wasnt Shittu's fault, they conveniently miss out the first half pressure from us... HORRIBLE PENALTY DECISION!! should have been retaken, Chelsea players encroaching... horrible defending for Drogba's 2 goals AoB...yeah, just a little offside... GREAT play from Davies for number 2, good finish from Basham as well, very awkward and again for #3 Jussi nearly gets himself on the scoresheet, bloody hell lol |
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le god Member
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"Credit to Blackburn, but chelsea took their foot of the gas" Oh well at least he didn't mention us, can't stand hearing him talk about us. |
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For once in a long time, I have I seen a bit of backbone in a Bolton performance, and I am very proud, and praise them. The penalty decision, should not have been given and would not have been given if it was a Boltons appeal for a similar decision. Also, IMO, and I do not know the new refereeing decisions, but others might be able to advise. I always thought that the final whistle could not be blown, when a team is in an attacking position, especially after a corner. |
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consistency has been our problem all year round, Observer...you can tell that we have the makings of a fantastic side, really, you can, a side that can again achieve the heights of 6th, as we did just a few short seasons ago, maybe more it's not every team that can score 3 at Stamford Bridge, can hold Arsenal until the 84th minute, hold United to the 90th+ minute etc etc we've shown we have the ability - salvos vs Pompey, Wet Spam (X2), Shitty just to name a few, as well as thrashing (yes, thrashing) Boro twice, Sunderland once (so far), gutsy performances vs relegation scrappers Newcastle and West Brom including 1 win, going 2 up vs Blackburn on their patch, winning away at Hull when they were riding high and had previously beaten Arsenal and their ilk, scoring 2 on Villa's patch, trouncing Stoke when they were bouncing into the league, amazing confidence and courage to first go two up and then to beat Spuds at our place the problem still remains that we cant seem to carry that ability (which is always there) throughout the games, and that is what needs to be corrected, and i would think that by the start of next season, it will be we are ever so nearly the complete article - and you cannot say that all this is just in spite of the manager, or because the opposition were ever so consistently poor |
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bdi wrote: For once in a long time, I have I seen a bit of backbone in a Bolton performance, and I am very proud, and praise them. The penalty decision, should not have been given and would not have been given if it was a Boltons appeal for a similar decision. As long as it's not a penalty the referee is alou to blow at any point, just most seemto only blow when the ball is in the middle of the pitch, possibly to avoid controvesy. However we did play over the injury time due to having conecutive corners so i don't think this is anything to complain about. Overall, fantastic spirit and fight, what we were used to seeing from our team. |
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The stats for this season are bugging me. Assuming we score another 6-7 goals before the end of the season (we look capable of doing this) we'll be on 45/46 goals for the season - not too far away from the seasons when we finished in a European spot. We've conceded 49 goals - assume we concede another 5/6 and we're not that far away from what we've done before when we've finished in the top 10. Our win percentage under he-who-shall-not-be-named is the same as under Allardyce (see previous threads). So it looks like it's the manner in whcih we're scoring that makes the difference. Those lack of draws are the only stat that's really making a difference. Shows what a fine dividing line there is between success and failure in this league. It also suggests that a sudden tweaking of our team (by adding players in certain crucial positions) could mean that we could be back to top 10s every season. |
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observer Member
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Andy Walsh wrote: The stats for this season are bugging me.So very true. I started a thread about this months ago. We now have 4 draws on the season... all winnable games... two vs Blackburn and two vs West Brom. All the games we used to draw have become losses. That's the difference between Europe and mid table. In the past we could achieve 9 or 10 draws. This year we have been a streaky club... winning 3 of 4 twice. We have also had some long streaks of losses including all games against the Big 4. In past years we might have salvaged 4 or 5 points from those clubs. Losing 1-0 twice in the 84th minute and at the death denied us two points. A few points here and there and we are fighting for Europe. The difference between the top 4 (and maybe 5 if you count the money Villa spent) and the rest of the league is enormous. But you are very accurate in describing the fine line between success and failure in the league. |
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Sprout Member
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le god wrote: "... chelsea took their foot of the gas" It's this type of thing that misses the point. Of course we only scored 3 because Chelsea took their foot off the gas. They're one of the top teams in Europe. We ain't going to beat them if their playing at 100%. The point is that for much of the season even when teams have taken their foot off the gas we still haven't come back. Yesterday we did. That's good enough. My only critique is for much of the game we were playing the old 10-0-0 formation. Okay, it's understandable in this game, but when we were able to push out the results were clear. Yet another demonstration that Bolton's failures this season have come from the excessive negativity and hoofing - stop that and we're a pretty good team. I really hope the managers and the players will wake up and banish 10-0-0 completely. It's all it would take for us to challenge in the league and maybe cups again. |
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le god Member
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Your right there at 3-0 i looked at the shape of the team and the distance between elmander and the midfield was about 50 yards... terrifying. |
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Howfen White Member
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Sprout wrote: le god wrote:"... chelsea took their foot of the gas" We have banished 10-0-0... we play 9-0-1! Have you not noticed Elmander up front on his own with his finger up his arse? Thought the penalty decision was a bit harsh with Steinsson and the defending for Drogba's 2nd was just shameful. Can't believe Cahill's blocked on the line, imagine the odds on a 4-4 at 4-0?! |
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D1OUFY Member
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Despite the loss I really enjoyed the match yesterday. I thought we started well and Chelsea didnt look too threatening. They didnt really play with any confidence until they were 3-0 up and at that point I thought they would really hammer us. My first instinct was that it wasn't a penalty and after seeing it on MoTD it was harsh. Our away fans were brilliant even at 4-0 and lots of banter with the Chelsea crowd who were p1ssing themselves at 4-0 when we were singing "5-4, we're going to win 5-4." Was funny to see them shrinking in their seats every time we scored. Some chanted "Frankie, wheres your mum, frankie frankie wheres your mum" at one point but another Bolton fan rightly shouted back "have some standards". Anelka got quite a reception when he came on and he nearly scored when we sent Cahill up top leaving AoB on his own at the back. Thought McCann was poor, Basham has to start in future. AoB did some things well when he came on but still looked error prone. Elmander didnt really offer much and we were much better with Davies (who again is cementing his legend status even further with every match) up front. Made John Terry look nervous. Didnt feel like a loss yesterday, more like a win. The standing ovation for the players was deserved and it was nice to see a few come over and appreciate it. Would have been good to see them all come over but hey ho. Even some Chelsea fans clapped us at the end. |
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melbourne dave Member
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That decision on that penalty was awful, what was he meant to do, rip his own arm off and throw it away, he could not have kept it any closer to his body than he did. |
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Woody Member
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melbourne dave wrote: That decision on that penalty was awful, what was he meant to do, rip his own arm off and throw it away, he could not have kept it any closer to his body than he did. Difficult to complain though, they did have a nailed on one in the first half. All we can do is curse our own bad luck that we didn't get the break. Is it more than that? I don't know, Ashley Cole probably spent five minutes himself telling the referee he deserved a pen (he did), was the referee swayed by that? Possibly. |
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