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Posted: Tue Aug 4th, 2009 04:43 pm |
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I don't usually start game threads but having ordered and received my tickets for the game (always seem to manage 1st home game if not many others) I note that the entire South Stand is "sold out" already, i.e. given over entirely to The Mackems. Seems like the policy at the end of last season - give the entire end to away fans to boost the gate is still in force.
Given that I could almost pick my seats on North Lower too, I guess we haven't sold many season tickets either. I suppose when poorly supported awy teams like Fulham come the ground may be pretty empty.
Anyway, hoping for the usual opening game goal-fest with us getting at least one more than The Mackems, and sending old Ma Bruce back up North with a miserable look on his face and a flea in his ear.
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Howfen White
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Posted: Tue Aug 4th, 2009 05:32 pm |
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I'll say the same as what I said when we played Sunderland at the end of last season, which we failed to do. Get an early goal and shut their fans up. They're great when they're doing well, score a goal and they will go silent. There will probably be more of them than us so we need to start well.
Darren Bent will be the dangerman for them, we didn't really handle him too well when he played against us last season!
Not really confident for it, I get the feeling they will be up for it more than us as they have much better fans, a new manager and IMO a top striker in Bent (he's more or less theirs!)
EDIT: Before anyone goes digging up old threads, I know I said Sunderland at home was a great start, but the way transfers have gone for us and them I'm feeling less confident than when the fixtures first came out!
Last edited on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 05:33 pm by Howfen White
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Posted: Tue Aug 4th, 2009 05:47 pm |
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Howfen White wrote: I'll say the same as what I said when we played Sunderland at the end of last season, which we failed to do. Get an early goal and shut their fans up. They're great when they're doing well, score a goal and they will go silent. There will probably be more of them than us so we need to start well.
Darren Bent will be the dangerman for them, we didn't really handle him too well when he played against us last season!
Not really confident for it, I get the feeling they will be up for it more than us as they have much better fans, a new manager and IMO a top striker in Bent (he's more or less theirs!)
EDIT: Before anyone goes digging up old threads, I know I said Sunderland at home was a great start, but the way transfers have gone for us and them I'm feeling less confident than when the fixtures first came out!
yeh this could be a hard game for us and if we don't keep an eye on bent he will go and score because he is a real quality striker .
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Posted: Tue Aug 4th, 2009 06:02 pm |
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| With Newcastle United being relegated, I guess the Mackems will start calling us the Barcodes what with our new home shirts. Last edited on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 06:03 pm by Havoc
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D1OUFY
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Posted: Tue Aug 4th, 2009 07:44 pm |
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Love the first game of the season.
Apart from when we had Newcastle.
So bring them on!
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liamBWFC
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Posted: Tue Aug 4th, 2009 10:53 pm |
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Win on the cards here hopefully. Need to win these games if we hope to stay up though i do thinkt there are about 5 teams more likely to be favourites for the drop.
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Posted: Wed Aug 5th, 2009 09:26 am |
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| Need to win these games if we hope to stay up !!! i see megsons management and piss poor signings have filled you with confidence too liam!
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Posted: Wed Aug 5th, 2009 10:03 am |
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Byroms a legend wrote:
Need to win these games if we hope to stay up !!! i see megsons management and piss poor signings have filled you with confidence too liam!
This is a new one on me......a dig at everything Megson!! 
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Posted: Wed Aug 5th, 2009 06:02 pm |
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| When are you going wake up a smell the coffee Billy? Our glorious leader has said he wants us to play more attacking football, you tell me how on earth is he going to achieve that by buying a complete new defence? And to top it all not a hint of the ball playing midfield player we have needed for for over two years!You might indeed say I'm being negative with not even a ball kicked in anger , but Mr Megson has had the chance to fill us all with a hint of excitement and expectation ,i'm afraid he has failed on both counts and with his own negative attitude to the game doesent look like anything will change . Last edited on Wed Aug 5th, 2009 06:05 pm by Byroms a legend
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Posted: Wed Aug 5th, 2009 06:54 pm |
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Byroms a legend wrote: When are you going wake up a smell the coffee Billy? Our glorious leader has said he wants us to play more attacking football, you tell me how on earth is he going to achieve that by buying a complete new defence? And to top it all not a hint of the ball playing midfield player we have needed for for over two years!You might indeed say I'm being negative with not even a ball kicked in anger , but Mr Megson has had the chance to fill us all with a hint of excitement and expectation ,i'm afraid he has failed on both counts and with his own negative attitude to the game doesent look like anything will change .
We have some players that can and have in the past played the kind of football that he's talking about. Matt Taylor for example. Style of football isn't all down to personel it's about the system.
I'm sceptical, but it's the system that needs to be changed, as well as the players. We still need an attacking midfielder and a striker, but I think you'll find it's easier to play flowing attacking football when you can rely on your defence to keep it tight when the other team counter-attacks.
We simply can't get involved in the "we'll score one more than you" style of attitude cos we won't score more than a lot of teams, but if we're solid at the back there's more freedom up front. Even the unbeatables of Arsenal had Ray Parlour, Martin Keown, Sol Campbell, not just Thierry Henry and Robert Pires.
That said, we need more forwards before the season kicks off, but until a ball's been kicked, I'm willing to trust that Meggo will try to play better stuff, as that's what he's said and I've seen nothing to tell me otherwise.
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Posted: Wed Aug 5th, 2009 06:58 pm |
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I've seen nothing to suggest we have the players to play "silky football"
Mark Davies is the only player who can pass.
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Posted: Wed Aug 5th, 2009 07:24 pm |
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Don't want to go off topic here but I don't think we'll be seeing 'sexy football' this season. I think in some matches we will try and play a bit more, but I would put money on us reverting back to the usual shit the second the opposition shows any kind of thread.
Rory has a point in that players like Taylor, M Davies, Sean Davis and even Muamba IMO could play some decent football if they were given the correct instructions. The truth is the players are told what to do by the manager, and I don't think the manager is adaptable enough to actually make something work straight away, he has to take the slow and boring route.
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Posted: Wed Aug 5th, 2009 08:08 pm |
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Sorry but i don't agree that we have the class to play this kind of football.
Not many teams do thats for sure.
Our players don't have the class to pass the ball out of defense under pressure, they can't hold off a tackle make some space and pick a pass.
They put their head down and hump it, and as a team in the bottom half of the table you spend the majority of games under pressure... you do the math. That is why we see such shit football.
I've said it time and time again. Our players have no composure, no class (mark davies aside)
Their are very few teams who do play this kind of football, i would say outside the top 4 you only have Everton, Spurs.... i can't think of anyone else off the top of my head.
So thats what were up against.
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Posted: Wed Aug 5th, 2009 09:23 pm |
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Competition to win a pair of tickets for Sunderland game if anyone is interested. Have to be a UK resident.
http://www.oddspreview.com/category/Football/Win-tickets-to-Bolton-v-Sunderland-in-the-Premier-League-on-August-15-200908050014/
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Posted: Wed Aug 5th, 2009 09:38 pm |
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Well a midfield of
Gardner Davies(S) Muamba Davies(M) Taylor
with Cohen, Basham and probably one of the above
looks a lot more promising than it did with Nolan and McCann as first team starters.
So I hope we will play a little bit better. I don't think we will have miracles but a few passes strung together will be nice. I think we will be able to do this on a more frequent and consistent basis than last season.
This game will be tough though I think, but with a new manager and new players we may be able to take advantage of a team that hasn't gelled yet.
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Howfen White wrote: EDIT: Before anyone goes digging up old threads, I know I said Sunderland at home was a great start, but the way transfers have gone for us and them I'm feeling less confident than when the fixtures first came out!
Who would possibly do a thing like that? 
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le god wrote:
Sorry but i don't agree that we have the class to play this kind of football.
Not many teams do thats for sure.
Our players don't have the class to pass the ball out of defense under pressure, they can't hold off a tackle make some space and pick a pass.
They put their head down and hump it, and as a team in the bottom half of the table you spend the majority of games under pressure... you do the math. That is why we see such shit football.
I've said it time and time again. Our players have no composure, no class (mark davies aside)
Their are very few teams who do play this kind of football, i would say outside the top 4 you only have Everton, Spurs.... i can't think of anyone else off the top of my head.
So thats what were up against.
I think that Fulham play decent football that I would be happy to pay to watch.
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| Fulham are a fantastic example because their squad of players isn't any more talented than ours, they have a similar team and score less than us but they have a solid defence. Big difference is they're managed by Hodgson. Last edited on Fri Aug 7th, 2009 03:38 pm by Omnislash
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Posted: Fri Aug 7th, 2009 11:17 pm |
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| Not with the topic like but... When has the Arsenal away fixture been changed to?
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Posted: Sat Aug 8th, 2009 06:38 am |
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I've read on quite a few sites that the eternal optimists have this down as an easy start to the season with 3 points written all over it for us, dear me
Sunderland will be a much tougher team this season with Bruce in charge, they have also invested in pace and goals in Bent and Campbell up front. They've also got some pace and creativity in midfield in Richardson and Malbranque.
We have invested nothing in creativity or pace or goals, all the area's we were lacking last season. Davies will be battering defenders as usual, Elmander will probably limp off at some point. Unless Taylor can score a 40 yarder I can see us losing this game by 2 or 3.
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Posted: Sat Aug 8th, 2009 08:25 am |
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Philsfaxmachine wrote: I've read on quite a few sites that the eternal optimists have this down as an easy start to the season with 3 points written all over it for us, dear me
Sunderland will be a much tougher team this season with Bruce in charge, they have also invested in pace and goals in Bent and Campbell up front. They've also got some pace and creativity in midfield in Richardson and Malbranque.
We have invested nothing in creativity or pace or goals, all the area's we were lacking last season. Davies will be battering defenders as usual, Elmander will probably limp off at some point. Unless Taylor can score a 40 yarder I can see us losing this game by 2 or 3.
to be fair, i dont think goals was an area we were lacking last season, PFM, when we scored one we were always likely to score more - but i do agree with you on creativity and pace, those areas do worry me slightly, unless Lee, M. Davies and Gardner pulls it together
new season, new sheet, guys - lets see what happens
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Posted: Sat Aug 8th, 2009 10:23 am |
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I think the line after yours should have been
"same old"
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Posted: Sat Aug 8th, 2009 10:45 am |
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| Cheer up at least were in for M'bami!
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| Who is M'Bami? And do we have a source? Last edited on Sat Aug 8th, 2009 10:49 am by Howfen White
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Posted: Sat Aug 8th, 2009 10:51 am |
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M'Bami is some free agent used to play for marseille scored 3 goals in over 400 games but were not sure if he's a striker or not.
The source is a very reliable bloke on WW.
I would say we are definitely in for him if it comes off is another question.
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D1OUFY wrote:
Well a midfield of
Gardner Davies(S) Muamba Davies(M) Taylor
with Cohen, Basham and probably one of the above
looks a lot more promising than it did with Nolan and McCann as first team starters.
So I hope we will play a little bit better. I don't think we will have miracles but a few passes strung together will be nice. I think we will be able to do this on a more frequent and consistent basis than last season.
This game will be tough though I think, but with a new manager and new players we may be able to take advantage of a team that hasn't gelled yet.
Yes, but if fit I expect Mccann to start next Saturday
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Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2009 11:22 am |
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This has nil nil written all over it.
A Sunderland team that have spent over £130 million in the past 2 seasons frightened to death of a bad start against us, a team still without an attacking midfielder or pace and without a striker who can find the goal on a regular basis.
Sweet Jesus I hope Im wrong.
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Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2009 10:39 pm |
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I was going into this game abit anxious but feel alot more confident after reading alot of your posts!
SAFC have had a great pre-season, and for the first time in ages we have a proper manager (Sbragia is nothing more than a coach, and Keane, well...enough said)
We are taking 4,500 fans or so down to your place, a friendly enough place to come to and looking forward to it.
Going for a score draw though. We still have defensive issues, but looking good up front.
2-2 with Bent on the scoresheet.
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