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| So you love the manager, the tactics and the board do you? We love the club, that's why we hate the rest of it.
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 09:57 am |
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Red White and Blue wrote: Cowdrill wrote:
gareth wont go out to win this fixture - even though its against a poor team
he will set out to NOT LOSE it
and if we manage to get something out of it then thats a bonus
ridiculous
Yeah Because he doesn't want to win. He has worked his whole life to get to the point where he can manage a team in the best league in the world and now he's there he doesn't want to win.
It's like theres the worlds biggest negative echo in the bolton banter forums. If you all hate the club, hate the players, hate the tactics, hate the manager, hate the board and you hate everything else related to the club why don't you just go support someone else.
wow, thats a crock of bullshit you just typed there!
still pissed about the ashes cobber?
if your happy with the situation then fine - but i think you'll find your in a tiny minority
but oh...wait! you dont actually go to the stadium and pay good money to watch the tripe do you?
its far easier to just switch of the telly and pretend all is rosey sint it matey?
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Red White and Blue
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 10:28 am |
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Sorry that geographically it's impossible for me to go to games. But even if I did go every week I wouldn't spend my whole time putting the club and the manager down. If its so bad and it brings so much misery just give it up. That way people who want to support a team and enjoy football don't have to listen to such negative whining.
And no I'm not happy with the current situation, but I'm happy with what we have achieved in the last two seasons. We've spent f*ck all money and survived and then improved out position in the league. Maybe so far this season we haven't got the results we want just yet, but with a bit of heart and a bit of effort the results will come. Supporting a team is about being strong when your club needs you and seeing through the tough times, if the players are anything like you we have no hope because your fickle and weak. I know the results will come and Megson and the team will prove you all wrong.
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Red White and Blue
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 10:28 am |
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| Positivity is the key to success. No successful person or team is negative. Negativity = losing. Last edited on Mon Sep 7th, 2009 10:29 am by Red White and Blue
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KeawYeadWhite
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 11:02 am |
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Red White and Blue wrote: Positivity is the key to success. No successful person or team is negative. Negativity = losing.
Are you talking about the fans here, or the tactics we use?
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NormidTerrace
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 11:08 am |
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KeawYeadWhite wrote: Red White and Blue wrote: Positivity is the key to success. No successful person or team is negative. Negativity = losing.
Are you talking about the fans here, or the tactics we use?
:hang:
Exactly! You're proving Cowdrill's point for him Red White and Blue. Megson isn't positive, the team isn't positive. Since no successful person or team is positive, we must be unsuccessful, QED.
The only thing keeping me even vaguely positive at the moment is that I remember the first couple of seasons we spent in the Premiership, and how absolutely awful Everton were. Flirting with relegation every season, and all under Moyes. Now look at them, and all with the same manager! But I do realise that it's blind optimism to just assume what appears to be a poor manager will come good over night.
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 12:13 pm |
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Red White and Blue wrote: We've spent flick all money
100% wrong
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Howfen White
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Cowdrill wrote: Red White and Blue wrote: We've spent flick all money
100% wrong
Sorry I'm backing the rose tinters on this one. He probably means in comparison to everyone else, which we have, we've spent the least in the league. I'm not going to knock that because IMO we've signed players that are good enough to play some decent football and get us further up the league, but it's not Megson's player signings that's the problem, it's his tactics. Anyway I can't believe this is turning into another Megson thread, actually, I can!
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 04:37 pm |
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Howfen White wrote: Cowdrill wrote: Red White and Blue wrote: We've spent flick all money
100% wrong
Sorry I'm backing the rose tinters on this one. He probably means in comparison to everyone else, which we have, we've spent the least in the league. I'm not going to knock that because IMO we've signed players that are good enough to play some decent football and get us further up the league, but it's not Megson's player signings that's the problem, it's his tactics. Anyway I can't believe this is turning into another Megson thread, actually, I can!
to say Megson has had 'f*ck all money' since he became manager is total nonsence
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 04:53 pm |
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to say Megson has had 'flick all money' since he became manager is total nonsence
Yes it is total nonsense Megson has spent hardly anything since hes been here he has spent close to £40m.
These are all the buys hes made since he took over.
Elmander £11m steinsson £3.5m cahill £5m taylor £4m ricketts £2.5m lee chung yong £2.2m shittu £2m Robinson £2m knight £4m Mark davies £1.5m muamba £5m cohen £100'000
so it is total rubbish that he hasn't spent much money.
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 05:00 pm |
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| Especially as we havn't got a rich owner that is a lot of money
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 05:14 pm |
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craig bwfc wrote: Especially as we havn't got a rich owner that is a lot of money
exactly
were in massive debt - the club has still let him make countless multi million pound signings
far more than BSA ever got
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Cowdrill wrote: craig bwfc wrote: Especially as we havn't got a rich owner that is a lot of money
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were in massive debt - the club has still let him make countless multi million pound signings
far more than BSA ever got
Which is why BSA was the greatest manager dollar for dollar that Bolton will ever see!
4 top eight finishes with 4 bottom eight budgets! Pretty awesome if you ask me!
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 05:35 pm |
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Which is why BSA was the greatest manager dollar for dollar that Bolton will ever see!
4 top eight finishes with 4 bottom eight budgets! Pretty awesome if you ask me!
Yeh big sam did as good a job as anybody in the premiership when he was here probably Only ferguson and wenger I'd say who could say that they have done better jobs than big sam did.
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 07:09 pm |
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| The problem with Big Sam is he doesn't know what to do with money when he gets it.
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 08:47 pm |
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We now bring in more money because of TV deals. I'd bet Sam was given way more money net overall than Megson. Sam was given £8.5M for Anelka, Megson had Anelka sold for £15M. I think the most made on a transfer during Sam's reign was £3.5M for Ricketts. We were hardly a selling club.
When you think of money spent, you also need to think about wages. I bet our wage bill per player is greatly reduced under Megson.
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 09:31 pm |
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NormidTerrace wrote: I bet our wage bill per player is greatly reduced under Megson.
Correct. Megson's net spend is probably a bit under £20m, and from comments emanating from the club the wage bill reduction has been significant enough to generate a chunk of that £20m. What is frustrating is the biggest spend (Elmander, and to a point, Muamba) has not been very productive. Plus weeks on end chasing Robinson for no good reason, and Bodde, is time wasted as well.
Anyway, Pompeii will still beat us. 
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 10:07 pm |
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| How dare you try to get back on topic Valderee!?
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 11:32 pm |
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| I think this will be much like the Hull game in that we will play OK but not put away any chances... most likely going to predict a 0-0 or 1-0 to them.
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Posted: Tue Sep 8th, 2009 07:41 am |
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| We'll be so negative again as always under Megson and i think they'll win 1-0 with a goal after about 65-70 minutes hopefully after this defeat and another defat v stoke that should meen megson will be gone he really should be gone if we lose these next two.
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craig bwfc wrote: We'll be so negative again as always under Megson and i think they'll win 1-0 with a goal after about 65-70 minutes hopefully after this defeat and another defat v stoke that should meen megson will be gone he really should be gone if we lose these next two.
You see that's what worries me. This defeat and another defeat before he's gone. Megson - or the team - has always delivered when it's got to the point of no return. His problem is he can't deliver when it's not the point of no return. And from what you're saying that's the Stoke match rather than this one.
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Sprout wrote: craig bwfc wrote: We'll be so negative again as always under Megson and i think they'll win 1-0 with a goal after about 65-70 minutes hopefully after this defeat and another defat v stoke that should meen megson will be gone he really should be gone if we lose these next two.
You see that's what worries me. This defeat and another defeat before he's gone. Megson - or the team - has always delivered when it's got to the point of no return. His problem is he can't deliver when it's not the point of no return. And from what you're saying that's the Stoke match rather than this one.
yeh he alway seems to get lucky all the time when we are losing games and then just when it looks like the runs going to carry on and that hes on the verge of going maybe then we get a lucky 1 goal win .
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Sprout wrote: craig bwfc wrote: We'll be so negative again as always under Megson and i think they'll win 1-0 with a goal after about 65-70 minutes hopefully after this defeat and another defat v stoke that should meen megson will be gone he really should be gone if we lose these next two.
You see that's what worries me. This defeat and another defeat before he's gone. Megson - or the team - has always delivered when it's got to the point of no return. His problem is he can't deliver when it's not the point of no return. And from what you're saying that's the Stoke match rather than this one.
yeh he alway seems to get lucky all the time when we are losing games and then just when it looks like the runs going to carry on and that hes on the verge of going maybe then we get a lucky 1 goal win .
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Pompey are terrible really really awful.
Shame were worse.
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Valderee wrote: NormidTerrace wrote: I bet our wage bill per player is greatly reduced under Megson.
Correct. Megson's net spend is probably a bit under £20m, and from comments emanating from the club the wage bill reduction has been significant enough to generate a chunk of that £20m. What is frustrating is the biggest spend (Elmander, and to a point, Muamba) has not been very productive. Plus weeks on end chasing Robinson for no good reason, and Bodde, is time wasted as well.
Anyway, Pompeii will still beat us.
BSA's wage bill was £21.7m in the 2003 season. I'm sure that went higher as we went to Europe and finished in the top 8.
BTW... I have a sneaking suspicion that we will WIN this week at Porty. Megson seems to climb out of every hole and this would be and should be a winning brace with Stoke up next. If we score as we did against Liverpool, we could win by a couple of goals. This is not farfetched, though current form seems to be against us. I say a brace the next two weeks!
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le god wrote: Pompey are terrible really really awful.
Shame were worse.
In terms of tactics, I agree, however on paper we should batter these men. I think that's probably the most frustrating thing for me at the moment, we have the players to EXPECT wins against teams like Portsmouth but the negative tactics put a dampener on that and make everyone pessimistic.
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Howfen White wrote:
le god wrote: Pompey are terrible really really awful.
Shame were worse.
In terms of tactics, I agree, however on paper we should batter these men. I think that's probably the most frustrating thing for me at the moment, we have the players to EXPECT wins against teams like Portsmouth but the negative tactics put a dampener on that and make everyone pessimistic.
Totally agree.
And thats what pisses me off, players that came from pass and move teams are now unable to kick straight and play like donkeys.
question is... why?
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le god wrote: Howfen White wrote:
le god wrote: Pompey are terrible really really awful.
Shame were worse.
In terms of tactics, I agree, however on paper we should batter these men. I think that's probably the most frustrating thing for me at the moment, we have the players to EXPECT wins against teams like Portsmouth but the negative tactics put a dampener on that and make everyone pessimistic.
Totally agree.
And thats what pisses me off, players that came from pass and move teams are now unable to kick straight and play like donkeys.
question is... why?
Gareth Megson esq.
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| we won't beat portsmouth they will be the team doing all the attacking and they will score thats for sure.
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craig bwfc wrote: we won't beat portsmouth they will be the team doing all the attacking and they will score thats for sure.
Nowt like optimism, huh?
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