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Posted: Sun Apr 17th, 2011 10:28 pm |
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plenty of nobs out and about today. Saw when the 4th go in, maybe the 5th, back of a chair ripped off and thrown and hit a group of kids 20 rows down, i wasn't near them they were about 50-70 seats round the corner... waiting for the train at salford central and there was a couple of dicks goading people.
Heard racism, both around the ground and on the train. The language at times also really needed reigning in. I can accept the odd expletive, but when it is every third, f*in, word, it f*in gets f*in stupid, the f*in Sh*t's.
The train also was really uncomfortable... I can't bring myself to discuss that game in any detail, just, well didn't help at all.
As for the Stoke fans, they were on good enough behaviour but i would say i saw a fair few bladdered around the same age as the Bolton nobs who were goading each other.
Wembley inside is impressive, except the bottle of beer poured in to a pint glass, I was stood for about 30 seconds puzzled after i'd ordered a pint, paid £4.30 and got 3/4 a glass of beer, she kept saying, "you've got a bottle" I kept saying, "i wanted a pint, that's not a pint" then I clicked.
Photo was taken of Tony Kelly on the wembley way.
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Posted: Sun Apr 17th, 2011 10:52 pm |
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Nothing worth saying about the game - still too disgusted!
However,was looking forward to my first time going to watch a match at wembley - I won't be going again.
Looks ok inside but prices are extortionate for garbage served up as food. Made the reebok catering look like michelin starred grub. Everything on the outside is beyond disgusting. We were sent to park in the multistorey which apparently doubles for a urinal, and wembley itself is set in an industrial estate. We should all be proud that this is our national stadium.Last edited on Sun Apr 17th, 2011 10:53 pm by aniram
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Posted on Twitter by Kevin Davies
"I am so sorry to all of you who came to support us and paid a lot of money. I am deeply upset and lost for words. Deserve the criticism"
"The fa cup Is something I have always dreamed of winning, was hoping this would be a day to remember, now it is a day I will never forget"
OMFG definately feel even worse now, for being annoyed about how they played
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Posted: Sun Apr 17th, 2011 11:14 pm |
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| Just got back in from the game and intrested to see what people have put but tbh the score didn't disappoint me the most today, the god awful support. i know some people have touched on bad language, racism and that but, its not even that before kick cheering like nobody's business after one goal went in we all shut up. Some people tried to get it going again but it just didn't happen. :hang: Last edited on Sun Apr 17th, 2011 11:17 pm by Dezza
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Not long since back and one of the few pleasing things about today is reading the posts on here of which most I would say, are spot on.
My two pennorth - I agree with Woody - I thought Stoke passed it better than us and outdid us tactically. They packed the midfield when we had the ball so we couldn't pass through them and they have the defenders to cope with the long ball crap we kept resorting to.
Has SKD had a worse game in a Bolton shirt? His game just seems unsuited to Stoke.
Both full backs were utterly appalling. Klasnic looks incapable of completing 90 minutes.
Saw a few nobs supporting both sides but nowt too bad.
Cant believe somebody is upset at Wanderers fans leaving early  . At 0-3 I was still singing my heart out and hoping the team would respond but I was off after the 4th.
Yes - I've seen lots worse as a Bolton fan but today is the only day I can think of in 35 years where I was embarrassed wearing the shirt. On the tube back to the car a few locals were asking us what had happened and were genuinely shocked - I couldn't cover my shirt up quickly enough.
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What do I say after coming back from Wembley... Not too much, since the majority has already been said.
We gifted them goals, in which if we had put the same kind of balls into Stokes area, as what our players did into our area, then we might have got back into the game.
I like others like to see passing football. When we managed to string 6 or 7 passes together, the ball didn't come out of our half. IMO, when chasing a game, why play that way. We needed the ball in the oppositions half, so in all intent was doing Stoke a favour, in time wasting.
Regarding the behaviou of supporters, when I was waiting at Wembley Park for Mr Man and Frankie, who decided to get there from Green Park Underground via a different route to all. A couple of policeman at the station had at times, two supporters against the wall giving them the riot act. Okay, you might say, but as said, I was waiting inside the station, since I had Mr Mans Railcard. Both of these supporters, one a Stoke Supporter, and the other a Bolton Supporter, had done nothing wrong. They were not swearing, being abusive or anything else. The Stoke Supporter, only said, whilst singing. "Come on, put a smile on your face", with a smile on his. So can imagine this kind of behaviour from the Police, doesn't help with the behaviour of some supporters.
When it comes to the bottom line, IMO, it was a one off game, which the players didn't turn up for, and they know it... So although deeply disappointet about how we played, will wipe this from my mind, and expect a good performance from them next Sunday when we play Arsenal at The Reebok..
On the bright side, met Tricky Trevor and Frankie again, after not seeing them for a while. Also met for the first time Billy .B. and Martin .C. for the first time, albeit all only briefly.. Suppose that was the highlight of my day...
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Harry Genshaw wrote: Cant believe somebody is upset at Wanderers fans leaving early . At 0-3 I was still singing my heart out and hoping the team would respond but I was off after the 4th.
Yes - I've seen lots worse as a Bolton fan but today is the only day I can think of in 35 years where I was embarrassed wearing the shirt. On the tube back to the car a few locals were asking us what had happened and were genuinely shocked - I couldn't cover my shirt up quickly enough.
I agree I've never booed my team or left early before, but today we left when the fourth went in.
For whatever the reason the team just didn't turn up today, and frankly by the time of the fourth I'd wasted too much money and an entire day - enough was enough.
In all honesty it was obvious they weren't coming back from 2-0 down they just seemed incapable of competing with Stoke on anything.
When they read out the team I said to my other half "this could be bad!" but even then I can't believe just how bad we were.
It was like watching another team, one that had never played together before. Even when they weren't hoofing it up front no one seemed able to get the ball to or from a teammate.
I'm just still shell shocked by how bad we were. Tony Pullis may want to take the plaudits for his team winning the game but in truth we handed it them on a plate.
I think 75% was because we lost the game, 20% was coz Stoke won the game, and 5% the ref was a stoke fan.
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I'll tell you something else as well. Even when 4-0 up, Pulis was still out in the technical area barking instructions. Where was OC?
But it was good to meet bdi, Dezza and Frankie for a pint yesterday and Martin and I had a good night in London on Saturday....so it's not all bad. 
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Posted: Mon Apr 18th, 2011 07:06 am |
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It's a lot easier to be positive when you're 4-0 up rather than 4-0 down, though Billy. I think even Coyle, the most positive man in football, can be forgiven for feeling dejected.
He'll be just as gutted as we all are, and my stomach still feels like a wretch, so much so that I've struggled to eat anything this morning. It's a hard one to comprehend, Stoke offered nothing incredible in that first half and the game was over. We've lost by narrower score lines and I've been more angry with the players and the manager, but yesterday was just one of them days where it all went wrong.
Just completely gutting that we didn't have a chance in that game to make a fist of it, another day we'd have walked in at half time 0-0 saying how terrible a first half that was.
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Think that the Club, should with the £450,000 they got for that performance, refund everyones ticket money to the people who purchased tickets, as a good will gesture, since they will have a record of all names & addresses, of people who bought them.
Do know that it doesn't cover travelling expenses, but might help some in forgetting, what should be a forgettable game....
It won't happen though, and was just wishful thinking on my part....
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Shambolic.
I think Billy's long post sums it up.
Not to single individuals out as, apart from a couple of sparks of life from Mavies and a bit of fight from Matt Taylor (did I really just type that?), there were NO redeeming features. But:
Robinson: This was the player we feared we'd bought. He looked rusty; two mistakes from Coyle (obviously with the benefit of hindsight) - dropping him to avoid the yellow and reinstating him when Alonso had started to look a better player.
Elmander: looked OK against Sham's powder puff midfielder but not enough aggression against Stoke's weakest area; their central midfield. Coyle really should have been able to see through the hype that some of us got caught up in after the Sham game.
CYL: How sad that he seemed overwhelmed and froze. He must have looked at Wembley and the FA Cup from afar and been thrilled to be involved.
Cahill: just seen him on SSN being interviewed at the PFA dinner - seemed actually to be close to tears. Go on Gary show us you really do think you owe us and give us another year (unless we actually want to cash in).
Support: Wembley has lost it's magic we've been there so often. For Stoke it was special - all the noise inside and outside before kick off was from those in Red. We just seemed to be treating it as any old away game.I was actually already on a bit of a downer when I took my seat. Left after the 5th goal - they had given me nothing to want to applaud at the end and I had wasted too much of my life already to spend another 90 minutes getting away from the stadium before hitting the road. And I forced my son to stay at Cardiff to watch Middlesbrough parade the Carling Cup so I wouldn't normally walk - but I feel no guilt (about yesterday - obviously I apologise unreservedly for the Cardiff business).
However as PFM states top ten and a cup run to the semi final is pretty much the best pre season prediction anyone came up with. Let's see how they react and be thankful we can't implode after yesterday and get relegated.
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Oh and we've only been hammered 3 times this year - twice by Stoke 2-0 and 5-0 and once by Citeh even though it was only 1-0.
Pulis certainly seems to have our number, and we'd have wasted a load more cash on watching us lose the final!
Every silver lining has a cloud.
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Posted: Mon Apr 18th, 2011 07:55 am |
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Okay I want my money back.
I have been battling with stopping my boy becoming a Citeh fan (His Grandad is a season ticket holder) my master plan was to take him to the semi and either a hard fought defeat ora glorious victory would swing it...
What I got was two full backs in panic mode (one who should have been sent off) aqnd a pretty static keeper (that may be hard) but his feet seemed awful slow for the first two goals)..
no complaints about the fans where I was seated they gave everything right up until the 5th (can't comment after that as I was on my bike).
Pretty much given up on the lad as why would I want to put him through a life of abject failure suspect that is bordering on child abuse..
At 4-0 to Stoke City I looked around the section we were in and there were a lot of kids the next generation, how many will go back to school and be slaughtered (like we used to be) and take the easy option of supporting Citeh or Manure 20% 30% i think the players and Management have damaged the fan base again..
I would like my money back, not bothered about the travel as we had a good day right up to 4:00 and then again when we charged out of the stadium at 5-0 to Stoke for godsake.
For Paul Robinson, the reason you have lost 4 times at wembley - Sir it is because you panic under pressure on the big stage the first goal was down to this and then blaming everyone else did not help. Please leave this club now.
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Posted: Mon Apr 18th, 2011 07:56 am |
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Woody wrote: It's a lot easier to be positive when you're 4-0 up rather than 4-0 down, though Billy. I think even Coyle, the most positive man in football, can be forgiven for feeling dejected.
He'll be just as gutted as we all are, and my stomach still feels like a wretch, so much so that I've struggled to eat anything this morning. It's a hard one to comprehend, Stoke offered nothing incredible in that first half and the game was over. We've lost by narrower score lines and I've been more angry with the players and the manager, but yesterday was just one of them days where it all went wrong.
Just completely gutting that we didn't have a chance in that game to make a fist of it, another day we'd have walked in at half time 0-0 saying how terrible a first half that was.
I don't recall him coming out when we were 1-0 down though.....but I don't think it would have made any difference. It would have been nice to see him in that technical area from start to finish, trying to get through to the players.
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One other thing to say about the whole Wembley experience. It was a joy to see everyone getting fixed up (thanks to Stokesy for mine) with tickets by fellow Banterers. It was also worth it because it gave a chance for many of us to meet for the first time. Through this, I've met Stokesy, urquhs, bdi, Dezza and Frankie, even though Frankie and Dezza went walkabouts at Green Park station.  Great to meet you all at last!
....and who wants Europe anyway!!
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aniram wrote: Posted on Twitter by Kevin Davies
"I am so sorry to all of you who came to support us and paid a lot of money. I am deeply upset and lost for words. Deserve the criticism"
"The fa cup Is something I have always dreamed of winning, was hoping this would be a day to remember, now it is a day I will never forget"
OMFG definately feel even worse now, for being annoyed about how they played
....and more from the BBC. At least he's apologising. Most footballers wouldn't.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/fa_cup/9461225.stm
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Posted: Mon Apr 18th, 2011 09:30 am |
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Billy Bradshaw wrote: ....and who wants Europe anyway!!
Me - roll on 12 weeks.
With regards to football feel better today, looking forward to the Arsenal game, hope the players can get their heads together and give us a good game.
Don't mind being beaten - even by crappy Stoke, but I did expect the players to put in at least as much effort as me in getting to the game. That was definately a team non-effort nobody deserves to be singled out on that score.
On the bright side, just seen some poor Stoke fan on SSN beaming and saying that it was the best he'd ever seen his team play, imagine that.
Just on a normal day this season Bolton usually play better than Stoke did yesterday, then we have great days when we look like Barcelona compared to them.
So chins up we will struggle to get all 13 players having "a bad match day" during the same game again. So at least we can look forward
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| Behind were I was sat, some Stoke fans were in the club Wembley seats, throwing coins and various 'projectiles'. Some Bolton fans were trying to get up their to attack him, some absolutely hammered others just really fecked off, but the result itself was the thing that really makes me wish I never went. Worse game I've ever seen Bolton play.
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Billy Bradshaw wrote: aniram wrote: Posted on Twitter by Kevin Davies
"I am so sorry to all of you who came to support us and paid a lot of money. I am deeply upset and lost for words. Deserve the criticism"
"The fa cup Is something I have always dreamed of winning, was hoping this would be a day to remember, now it is a day I will never forget"
OMFG definately feel even worse now, for being annoyed about how they played
....and more from the BBC. At least he's apologising. Most footballers wouldn't.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/fa_cup/9461225.stm
To be honest yesterday I felt let down and disgusted about the whole thing, but today I really feel sorry for SKD and the others. I feel really bad for them when I hear them talking about it - thought Cahill was going to cry.
None of them went out thinking they didn't care or that it didn't matter. And for all the shortfalls they have as a individuals, as a team they are a good unit and pull hard to support each other.
They've given us plenty to cheer about this year. They must be really embarrassed today to know that they let themselves down so badly on such a big stage.
What I would appreciate is an apology from Coyle I think he is as much to blame for choosing the team and telling them how to play. At the moment it feels like he is off sulking - it felt like that during the game too I kept looking for him to come out and pass on some words of wisdom but nothing.
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| I think if anything, this affected Cahill the most. I could see it when he was trying to run with the ball out of the back, hoping something would happen, but it never did, nobody wanted the ball. Gary will leave this summer no doubt about it. He loves this club, its clear to see, but If I was him I'd be worried week in week out playing with Zat 'lump it' Knight and Gretar Steinsson.
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I do not feel sorry for the players not for a second.
They are superbly well paid for what they do for a living, normally to earn that amount of cash you need to be supremely talented.
I think they need to make a gesture to show how it really matters to them, they should make a donation to a local charity SKD's if you like. Because I don't know what they did last week but it clearly did not benefit the club or the fans in any way shape or form.
Owen Coyle needs to take the majority of the blame, Elmander in midfield when Mark Davies was fit enough for the bench, being unable to stop Robinson, knight, Steinsson and Jaaskelainen from kicking away possesion for the whole game.
I feel sorry for the fans who stumped up the cash and made the journey's from all over the country for that..
At the moment I could not care less about the players feelings, or how they perform in the next game..
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Catte Strophe wrote: I feel sorry for the fans who stumped up the cash and made the journey's from all over the country for that..
At the moment I could not care less about the players feelings, or how they perform in the next game..
I only stumped up the cash because my team got to the Semi-final in the FA cup. We would all have been delighted with that at the beginning of the season.
At the end of the day it was just ONE game, and even the best teams can have a bad day, its just unfortunate that ours was at Wembley, and that it wasn't just one or two players having an off day.
It says a lot for how well this team has done that we and most of the pundits (who don't normally have much time for us) all thought we would get to the final.
Also I don't care how much money they make it can't feel good for them this morning knowing that they blew a great chance to be in the FA cup final. There are still some things money can't buy
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aniram wrote: Catte Strophe wrote: I feel sorry for the fans who stumped up the cash and made the journey's from all over the country for that..
At the moment I could not care less about the players feelings, or how they perform in the next game..
I only stumped up the cash because my team got to the Semi-final in the FA cup. We would all have been delighted with that at the beginning of the season.
At the end of the day it was just ONE game, and even the best teams can have a bad day, its just unfortunate that ours was at Wembley, and that it wasn't just one or two players having an off day.
It says a lot for how well this team has done that we and most of the pundits (who don't normally have much time for us) all thought we would get to the final.
Also I don't care how much money they make it can't feel good for them this morning knowing that they blew a great chance to be in the FA cup final. There are still some things money can't buy
I agree. Feeling sorry for the players doesn't negate our comments about them or how they performed as a team though. We have a club captain who's big enough to come out and apologise (Remember Rooney's outburst at the fans because they booed a poor England performance) for what was a miserable day and an under-performance by the whole team.
I just wish our manager would accept his own failings yesterday, which precipitated the whole disaster.
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Billy Bradshaw wrote: aniram wrote: Catte Strophe wrote: I feel sorry for the fans who stumped up the cash and made the journey's from all over the country for that..
At the moment I could not care less about the players feelings, or how they perform in the next game..
I only stumped up the cash because my team got to the Semi-final in the FA cup. We would all have been delighted with that at the beginning of the season.
At the end of the day it was just ONE game, and even the best teams can have a bad day, its just unfortunate that ours was at Wembley, and that it wasn't just one or two players having an off day.
It says a lot for how well this team has done that we and most of the pundits (who don't normally have much time for us) all thought we would get to the final.
Also I don't care how much money they make it can't feel good for them this morning knowing that they blew a great chance to be in the FA cup final. There are still some things money can't buy
I agree. Feeling sorry for the players doesn't negate our comments about them or how they performed as a team though. We have a club captain who's big enough to come out and apologise (Remember Rooney's outburst at the fans because they booed a poor England performance) for what was a miserable day and an under-performance by the whole team.
I just wish our manager would accept his own failings yesterday, which precipitated the whole disaster.
All true, took the lad to the game in the hope he would see a momentous performance by the Wanderers. The look of shock on his face when the 3rd went in reminded me of the look of shock on the lads in 1987 at Aldershot as we lost to enter the 4th division. Sealed with a draw at our spot.
I respect SKD and Cahill for all they have done for the club, but I don't care if they had a sleepless night last night, I suspect they will take their pay for this months efforts and I suspect they will not feel a tinge of guilt.
I would also like Owen Coyle to explain that performance, without making Tony Pulis sound like the greates Manager on the planet..
And please Owen do not leave us with only Robinson at left back next season Alonso is a work in progress.. give Ricardo a chance to earn a contract fairly sue he would not have panicked at the sight of Jermaine Pennant.
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I agree. Feeling sorry for the players doesn't negate our comments about them or how they performed as a team though. We have a club captain who's big enough to come out and apologise (Remember Rooney's outburst at the fans because they booed a poor England performance) for what was a miserable day and an under-performance by the whole team.
I just wish our manager would accept his own failings yesterday, which precipitated the whole disaster.
I can't hold on to an argument or grudge for too long so I'm ready to look forward now but I agree Billy they all had a part in the debacle, they can't go back and change what happened, but they can at least apologize as SKD did.
I know the players are responsible for their part, but beyond that the manager is responsible for picking the team, telling them what positions to plays in, and setting out the tactics. If they aren't doing as he told them I expect him on the touchline shouting at them to put it right, and at half time getting them back on track and telling them how to get back in the game. I saw none of that yesterday from Coyle.
I don't want to make this ALL about Coyle, he has done great things with this team, but I would like him to apologise for his part in it. So far he seems to have laid it all at the feet of the players.
From offish site:-
Coyle said: "We can't take anything away from Stoke because they were outstanding, but I felt that we created our own misfortune.
"When you get to this stage and this arena, if you play to your best and are outperformed then you can accept it. But today we didn't reach the levels that we previously reached throughout the season.
"We came to the semi-final in good heart after out preparations but, ultimately, we underperformed. The manner of the loss is hurtful because we know that we are better than that.
Come on Coyle own up to your part and we can all respect that and move on for the next game. This royal "We" just doesn't cut it.
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Posted: Mon Apr 18th, 2011 11:20 am |
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Catte Strophe wrote:
Okay I want my money back.
I have been battling with stopping my boy becoming a Citeh fan (His Grandad is a season ticket holder) my master plan was to take him to the semi and either a hard fought defeat ora glorious victory would swing it...
What I got was two full backs in panic mode (one who should have been sent off) aqnd a pretty static keeper (that may be hard) but his feet seemed awful slow for the first two goals)..
no complaints about the fans where I was seated they gave everything right up until the 5th (can't comment after that as I was on my bike).
Pretty much given up on the lad as why would I want to put him through a life of abject failure suspect that is bordering on child abuse..
At 4-0 to Stoke City I looked around the section we were in and there were a lot of kids the next generation, how many will go back to school and be slaughtered (like we used to be) and take the easy option of supporting Citeh or Manure 20% 30% i think the players and Management have damaged the fan base again..
I would like my money back, not bothered about the travel as we had a good day right up to 4:00 and then again when we charged out of the stadium at 5-0 to Stoke for godsake.
For Paul Robinson, the reason you have lost 4 times at wembley - Sir it is because you panic under pressure on the big stage the first goal was down to this and then blaming everyone else did not help. Please leave this club now.
The tide is turning in manchester id let the lad go to city if its what he wants.Why put him through a lifetime of misery and dissapointment and riddicule from his mates.
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aniram
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Posted: Mon Apr 18th, 2011 11:27 am |
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The tide is turning in manchester id let the lad go to city if its what he wants.Why put him through a lifetime of misery and dissapointment and riddicule from his mates.
But if the best choice he was left with was a Manc team maybe he should try Rugby, at least he wouldn't be mixing with the Gallagher brothers or Nevilles.
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Posted: Mon Apr 18th, 2011 11:27 am |
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Was shocking losing 5-0 to a team as limited as Stoke just shows what a great job Coyle has done with players which are not his own and can't play passing football and have us currently in 8th in the table.
I just hope this summer he is given the chance to be able to start proper work on getting his own sort of players in and to do that obviously he has to have more than the £2.2m he spent this last summer.Last edited on Mon Apr 18th, 2011 11:30 am by craig bwfc
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Posted: Mon Apr 18th, 2011 11:32 am |
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| When was the last time a team lost 5-0 in an fa cup semi-final,certainly not in my lifetime or my old mans.When i think back to crawley town the other week then think of our lot fcukin unforgivable!! it was only fcukin stoke not man u or arsenal or chelsea.
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