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BringBackBurndenPark
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Posted: Tue Oct 25th, 2011 10:01 pm |
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| Ok. I've seen a few clips. An to be honest, I don't know what the he'll I'm looking at. I can't see where this racism is. Anybody see something I didn't?
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White Steel
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Posted: Tue Oct 25th, 2011 10:44 pm |
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I gather it comes down to whether he said to Anton Ferdinand "You blind ----" or "you black ----"
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Liam
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Posted: Tue Oct 25th, 2011 11:25 pm |
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| he's already said that he repeated what Ferdinand asked him did he say, the latter.. TBH, i'd like to beleive him on this one.
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Posted: Wed Oct 26th, 2011 09:56 am |
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| I don't see Terry as a racist. A serial adulterer perhaps, but not a racist.
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| A lot of people can say anything in a charged situation then wish they had not.
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Posted: Wed Oct 26th, 2011 12:43 pm |
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| Good job there are no fat footballers.
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The gentleman has previous, not on a pitch and let me add allegedly..
Not a nice human being
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BringBackBurndenPark
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Posted: Wed Oct 26th, 2011 04:44 pm |
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It looked to me like he called him a nob head. I personaly think someone just wants to get him into trouble. He is an easy target.
If its all come from that poxy clip, then its a bit pathetic.
That is all ive seen on the matter. No interviews or anything so im only going off that myself.
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Posted: Thu Oct 27th, 2011 09:40 pm |
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| i think its pretty clear that he says 'f***ing b___ C**t then calls him the nob head. Whether he says black or blind? who knows? but if he hasn't said it then come out and say exactly what you said or get the other player to say you didn't say it!
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Posted: Mon Nov 28th, 2011 10:12 pm |
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Been interviewed Friday under caution.... but not arrested.
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Posted: Mon Nov 28th, 2011 10:58 pm |
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Tweek wrote:
Good job there are no fat footballers.
i'd love to see SKD asking SWP did you say i was fat or fit?
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Posted: Wed Nov 30th, 2011 08:09 pm |
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| Taking their time over this one aren't they!
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Posted: Wed Nov 30th, 2011 08:18 pm |
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trotter85 wrote: Taking their time over this one aren't they!
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| I bet Terry is absolutely bricking it, noe that his details have been passed onto the courts or whatever it is! he will probably be charged just before the Euro's which will once again be a huge distraction to the England team! Idiot!
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Posted: Wed Dec 21st, 2011 02:00 pm |
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To be Charged
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16284813
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Frankie wrote: To be Charged
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16284813
He's many things, but I never had him down as a racist. If he's guilty, he needs to receive a serious penalty. Anything less will give the message that it's fine to to do this. I think it was a mistake to give him the England captaincy back. He could still have been a 'leader' on the pitch, but the country's captain needs to be respected in his professional and private life.
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| It would not be a surprise to me, over the years I have been told some thoroughly abhorent stories about this man and what he is about.. And that is from Chelsea fans who seem revel in the big man and his rep.
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Catte Strophe wrote: It would not be a surprise to me, over the years I have been told some thoroughly abhorent stories about this man and what he is about.. And that is from Chelsea fans who seem revel in the big man and his rep.
It's a shame, bacause as a player, i love the way he plays the game. KD once said that he loved playing against Terry, because they would have this old-fashioned physical battle for 90 minutes and shake hands at the end of the game and congratulate each other. I like that philosophy. But it seems that appearances can be deceptive.
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Catte Strophe wrote: It would not be a surprise to me, over the years I have been told some thoroughly abhorent stories about this man and what he is about.. And that is from Chelsea fans who seem revel in the big man and his rep. Tell us some of these stories!!! Im intrigued! He's the stereo type of a modern day footballer isn't he! good at saying all the right things in interviews thanks to his bible of football cliche's that all footballers seem to have, but the truth will catch up with them eventually! He shouldn't get anywhere near the England set up now! just like world cup in 2010 all the build up will be about him by the time this gets sorted and that will ruin any chance we might have!
He should be banned for the rest of the season and phased out of the england squad so they can all concentrate on playing football!!
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| If he goes to jail, I wonder if he will become someone's 'special friend'?
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Billy Bradshaw wrote: If he goes to jail, I wonder if he will become someone's 'special friend'?
If found guilty, the maximum he can get is a £2500 fine. Its the stigma attached to it that he is worried about...not good for sponsorship £££'s.
Interesting quote from AVB...‘The only thing I know is that I will be fully supportive of John Terry, whatever the outcome,’ said Villas-Boas, who was speaking before the CPS announced its decision.
‘He has my full support, he has the club’s full support. We know exactly his human values and personality. They are never in doubt."
Yep....there is no doubt that he is a c*nt of the highest order.
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Bolton Bolton wrote: Billy Bradshaw wrote: If he goes to jail, I wonder if he will become someone's 'special friend'?
If found guilty, the maximum he can get is a £2500 fine. Its the stigma attached to it that he is worried about...not good for sponsorship £££'s.
Interesting quote from AVB...‘The only thing I know is that I will be fully supportive of John Terry, whatever the outcome,’ said Villas-Boas, who was speaking before the CPS announced its decision.
‘He has my full support, he has the club’s full support. We know exactly his human values and personality. They are never in doubt."
Yep....there is no doubt that he is a c*nt of the highest order.
It's right for his club to support him....for now. Right now, he's guilty of nothing. But we'll see. I can't help think that the police believe the case is watertight, but all they have to do is put a little doubt in the mind of a jury.
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Posted: Fri Dec 23rd, 2011 09:09 am |
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He's either innocent or stupid. The charge is "using racist language", not racism.
The smart thing to do would have been to have stood up and said "I'm not a racist but I did use such language in the heat of the moment. This shows how prevalent it is - something I didn't realise even in myself etc." and become some sort of ambassodor showing that to really eradicate racism such cultural norms need changing.
It would have cost him £2,500 and would have gained supporters that he was someone who could admit getting things wrong. If he's convicted now it will make him look far worse.
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| Arrogance appears to be one of Terry's many qualities. To admit anything could lose him sponsorship deals.
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He's either innocent or stupid. The charge is "using racist language", not racism.
The smart thing to do would have been to have stood up and said "I'm not a racist but I did use such language in the heat of the moment. This shows how prevalent it is - something I didn't realise even in myself etc." and become some sort of ambassodor showing that to really eradicate racism such cultural norms need changing.
It would have cost him £2,500 and would have gained supporters that he was someone who could admit getting things wrong. If he's convicted now it will make him look far worse.
Ther's a budding PR man if ever I saw one.
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Greeny2 wrote: Sprout wrote:
He's either innocent or stupid. The charge is "using racist language", not racism.
The smart thing to do would have been to have stood up and said "I'm not a racist but I did use such language in the heat of the moment. This shows how prevalent it is - something I didn't realise even in myself etc." and become some sort of ambassodor showing that to really eradicate racism such cultural norms need changing.
It would have cost him £2,500 and would have gained supporters that he was someone who could admit getting things wrong. If he's convicted now it will make him look far worse.
Ther's a budding PR man if ever I saw one.
Yeah....isn't using racist language a form of racism? If someone was using racist language, I would assume they were practising racism? Maybe the law distinguishes between the two, but the public won't.
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The difference IMO is if someone cuts you up you could mutter "you black ----" or "typical black". The latter is certainly racism, but is the former? I suspect few people would think the latter one but the former may well be more common. The problem is that to say it becomes racist language and aggravating.
Now replace the word black with woman. "You stupid woman" would be acceptable "typical woman driver" is sexist.
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| England football captain John Terry, accused of racially abusing QPR's Anton Ferdinand, will go on trial after the European Championship final in July.
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JT stripped on England Captaincy
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Will it make any difference to the way the team play now he's been removed? If yes, then you could argue that he should have gone long ago as success with him as captain has not been what we would all want. Beckham was captain for years and England never got beyond the quarter finals. Fergie would not consider him for the job but he was automatic choice for England. So what does it all mean, is it just cosmetic?
PS, odds-on Saint David not only being in the GB olympic team, but captain and then in a couple of years it will be Sir David and Lady Beckham. Excuse me I think I'm about to be sick.
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