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 Posted: Thu Apr 12th, 2012 01:37 pm
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didnt know where to put it, or if its already been up, seems hes been a bad boy

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2128684/Chris-Eagles-banned-driving-speeding-using-mobile-phone.html?ITO=1490&utm_source=The+Men+In+White&utm_medium=facebook



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 Posted: Thu Apr 12th, 2012 02:13 pm
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Good, the idiot.



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As a keen motorcyclist, any tool using their phone should be knee capped immediatly.

Hopefully he will be sacked by the club before he has the opportunity of wearing the shirt again.



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 Posted: Thu Apr 12th, 2012 03:20 pm
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Woody wrote: Good, the idiot.
Agreed , but really who gives a shite .......



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 Posted: Thu Apr 12th, 2012 03:23 pm
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Well this is true.

Twat gets driving ban shouldn't be news just because he's stealing his living in the Premier League.



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 Posted: Thu Apr 12th, 2012 06:24 pm
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Good but nothing to do with football.
If i look out my office window on St Georges road...one in ten minimum are on their phone driving....most of them women. Just a little research i did while doing f*ckall at work.

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 Posted: Thu Apr 12th, 2012 06:30 pm
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Bolton Bolton wrote:
Good but nothing to do with football.
If i look out my office window on St Georges road...one in ten minimum are on their phone driving....most of them women. Just a little research i did while doing f*ckall at work.


I actually notice a lot of women that do it. I know they can talk a lot but f*ck me don't do it while your driving.



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 Posted: Thu Apr 12th, 2012 06:45 pm
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You would of thought a Bentley Continental would atleast have bluetooth parrot kit .. 



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 Posted: Thu Apr 12th, 2012 07:22 pm
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They do...probably hasnt worked it out

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 Posted: Thu Apr 12th, 2012 07:40 pm
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Certainly don't condone it, but I must admit that it appears that every other car driver is on their mobile whilst driving.

At least he hadn't signed for Bolton when this happened...  :P

Whatever, probably not as bad as these two though..

http://web.orange.co.uk/article/news/two_footballers_on_trial_for_raping_teen

Think that the majority think they are above the law.  About time the courts treated these as normal people and punished them with that in mind,  and not like Prima Donna's and just get a slapped wrist....

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 Posted: Thu Apr 12th, 2012 07:41 pm
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What has become a bit of a joke, I believe, is people texting whilst driving. I see it a lot and it really disturbs me.

At least if you're actually speaking you're looking at the road (I don't condone it at all). I can't actually believe there's people out there who are looking at their phones whilst behind the wheel. It is crazy.

Hmm, I'm not sure if that's an appropriate comparison BDI.

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bdi wrote:
Whatever, probably not as bad as these two though..

http://web.orange.co.uk/article/news/two_footballers_on_trial_for_raping_teen

Think that the majority think they are above the law.  About time the courts treated these as normal people and punished them with that in mind,  and not like Prima Donna's and just get a slapped wrist....



I think the clue here is in the link title here BDI 'on trial'. Innocent until proven guilty is I believe, the term!

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 Posted: Fri Apr 13th, 2012 07:02 am
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bdi wrote:
Certainly don't condone it, but I must admit that it appears that every other car driver is on their mobile whilst driving.

At least he hadn't signed for Bolton when this happened...  :P

Whatever, probably not as bad as these two though..

http://web.orange.co.uk/article/news/two_footballers_on_trial_for_raping_teen


Think that the majority think they are above the law.  About time the courts treated these as normal people and punished them with that in mind,  and not like Prima Donna's and just get a slapped wrist....



(Re Ched Evans link) Just a minute. Our own Ivan Klasnic was accused of the same thing. Innocent until proven guilty.

They might have had sex with her, but it doesn't mean they have raped her.

Think these cases are becoming more and more difficult.

As for talking on the mobile whilst driving (Chris Eagles), I see this all the time. Males and Females are doing it. I've also seen people with their earphones / headphines on, listening to their ipods / MPS whilst driving. This means that you can't hear anything coming. Another silly act.

Last edited on Fri Apr 13th, 2012 07:09 am by Greeny2

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bdi wrote: Certainly don't condone it, but I must admit that it appears that every other car driver

This is a very worrying trend, I don't do anywhere near the miles I used to do on the Bikes but in the last year I have had three quite close calls and two of them involved pond life using their mobile phones.

The third was in Ascot where a Lady was so busy chatting to her Mum that she accessed the round-a-bout I was already on, managed to avoid impact but her mirror clipped my thigh. Not sure if the minor impact or me hitting the horn woke her up. Made her get out of the car and apologise blamed her Mum for distracting her rode away shaking my head.

The biscuit was when a delivery driver seeing his client going the opposite way (whilst at T Junction) decided to reverse 100 yards away from T junction, whilst talking to his boss on the phone and doing something with his clipboard. Hit me 10 yards into his journey despite the use of the horn (he wandered what that noise was). I had made sure I could see him in his mirrors much to the annoyance of the lady behind me, pity he did not use them. The lady just drove round the incident. Call this a near miss as I actually stayed upright (Front wheel jammed under the rear of the transit). Went to court and I won as he signed a sheet of paper admitting to the cause.

If you get a call, pull over answer or phone back, if missed call if important they will leave a message or call you back. Before we made Cell phones you never needed to be contacted in your car.

 



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I've seen people struggling to turn a corner or go around a rounabout because they're trying to do it with one hand, because they're chatting on their phone. I've seen people texting whilst driving. :shock:

If anyone doubts the dangers of doing the above, they should watch these young ladies WALKING down the street with a kiddie in a pram. They are texting on their phones whilst still trying to walk with the pram. They use the full width of the path and walk in a zig zag line because they can't control the pram with one hand.



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hahaha!

That's a brilliant analogy.



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Woody wrote:
Well this is true.

Twat gets driving ban shouldn't be news just because he's stealing his living in the Premier League.


I do wonder why people add comments like 'he's stealing his living.' Having a dig for no reason and at a player who might just play a key role in keeping us up. I am sure you earn every penny Woody. :banghead:



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Loftys Roar wrote:
Woody wrote:
Well this is true.

Twat gets driving ban shouldn't be news just because he's stealing his living in the Premier League.


I do wonder why people add comments like 'he's stealing his living.' Having a dig for no reason and at a player who might just play a key role in keeping us up. I am sure you earn every penny Woody. :banghead:


:laugh:

Hmm, stealing a living might have been the wrong phrase.

I think Chris Eagles is a fraudulent footballer, somehow playing in the Premier League when his level is clearly far below that.

That better? Either way, he's not good enough for the Premier League. Symptomatic of our entire team, some might say.



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Woody wrote: Loftys Roar wrote:
Woody wrote:
Well this is true.

Twat gets driving ban shouldn't be news just because he's stealing his living in the Premier League.


I do wonder why people add comments like 'he's stealing his living.' Having a dig for no reason and at a player who might just play a key role in keeping us up. I am sure you earn every penny Woody. :banghead:


:laugh:

Hmm, stealing a living might have been the wrong phrase.

I think Chris Eagles is a fraudulent footballer, somehow playing in the Premier League when his level is clearly far below that.

That better? Either way, he's not good enough for the Premier League. Symptomatic of our entire team, some might say.


Probably the wrong thread for this :) but anyway..... Chris Eagles (and others like him) are Premier league level, because they play for us and teams around us. Eagles isn't one player in 300. He's a typical lower-PL-team player. Every team near the bottom has them. But we see how good some of the better PL players are and they raise the bar.

Yes, most of our team is symptomatic, but of the real mediocrity of the PL, which the press and media largely ignores, whilst they focus on the top 6. You can always point to a player who is on fire for their club and say, "Look at him, they got him on a free". But we could have said similar of Klasnic when he got those early goals. The truth is that the PL has a core of Eagle-like players.



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Billy Bradshaw wrote:
 The truth is that the PL has a core of Eagle-like players.


Taken in isolation, that sentence conjures up scene's of players swooping down to nod the ball into the back of the net past Cat like keepers (or fish like) think that would improve the prem no end.




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You would do well to throw an 'I think' into your posts every now and then Billy. Part of the reason you get a bit of stick is because you're dismissive in your posts of someone else's opinions.

I understand that you want to get your argument across and I generally don't mind having a debate with you, but you think Chris Eagles is a Premier League level player. I don't.

I don't think Eagles is good enough to be put on a par with even the average players in the Premier League. I think he is a distinctly bad player.

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Woody wrote: You would do well to throw an 'I think' into your posts every now and then Billy. Part of the reason you get a bit of stick is because you're dismissive in your posts of someone else's opinions.

I understand that you want to get your argument across and I generally don't mind having a debate with you, but you think Chris Eagles is a Premier League level player. I don't.

I don't think Eagles is good enough to be put on a par with even the average players in the Premier League. I think he is a distinctly bad player.


Mmmm....you didn't say 'I think' when you posted this:

"Twat gets driving ban shouldn't be news just because he's stealing his living in the Premier League."

You only added 'I think' after you were pulled up on it?

You also need to go back and read my post again. I didn't say that I thought Eagles was a PL player in the sense that you are arguing. I'm saying that the fact that we have got so many players in the PL that are of a similar skill to Eagles, by definition, Eagles is a PL player. I thought that was obvious, but maybe not? (that's me being sarcastic again).

Whenever anyone says something that is subjective, it is by definition an opinion. If I say that Klasnic is the best player in our team, that is based purely on opinion, supposition and is subjective. But if I say he's our top scorer, it's based on fact. Isn't the difference obvious without me adding 'I think' onto everything I say?



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Catte Strophe wrote: Billy Bradshaw wrote:
 The truth is that the PL has a core of Eagle-like players.


Taken in isolation, that sentence conjures up scene's of players swooping down to nod the ball into the back of the net past Cat like keepers (or fish like) think that would improve the prem no end.



If only Eagles was Eagle-like. More like an Eagle with a clipped wing. :D



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Woody wrote: You would do well to throw an 'I think' into your posts every now and then Billy. Part of the reason you get a bit of stick is because you're dismissive in your posts of someone else's opinions.

I understand that you want to get your argument across and I generally don't mind having a debate with you, but you think Chris Eagles is a Premier League level player. I don't.

I don't think Eagles is good enough to be put on a par with even the average players in the Premier League. I think he is a distinctly bad player.


Mmmm....you didn't say 'I think' when you posted this:

"Twat gets driving ban shouldn't be news just because he's stealing his living in the Premier League."

You only added 'I think' after you were pulled up on it?

You also need to go back and read my post again. I didn't say that I thought Eagles was a PL player in the sense that you are arguing. I'm saying that the fact that we have got so many players in the PL that are of a similar skill to Eagles, by definition, Eagles is a PL player. I thought that was obvious, but maybe not? (that's me being sarcastic again).

Whenever anyone says something that is subjective, it is by definition an opinion. If I say that Klasnic is the best player in our team, that is based purely on opinion, supposition and is subjective. But if I say he's our top scorer, it's based on fact. Isn't the difference obvious without me adding 'I think' onto everything I say?



I'm not having a pop at you, I don't think forum life can be all 'walking on egg-shells' in terms of constantly posting 'I think' etc all the time. It's just every now and then when you're responding to someone's opinion, throwing an 'I think' in there can't hurt.

Sadly you're still refusing to see my opinion. I think that Eagles is not even on the level of what you're calling the players of a similar skill. I don't think he is, he's a truly terrible winger who wouldn't get into any team's starting eleven. But he does work hard, so that's in his favour.



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You may be right about Eagles. My point was really a general one. How many of our players would get in any team above, say...15th place in the PL? There are a few in our team that are on a par with Eagles.



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This season in the league:

Chris Eagles £3m 3 goals 4 assists

Stuart Downing £20m no goals and no assists

Those are facts.

In my opinion, I would have Eagles over Downing every time.

To think he might be in the Euro2012 squad for England shows the lack of talented players we have.



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Well yes, as we've agreed most of our team is symptomatic of players not good enough for this league.

Perhaps epitomized in Darren Pratley. Not offered a contract by promoted Swansea and yet currently in our starting eleven. You can carry one or two poor players in this league, but our team is just full of them.

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I don't rate Downing, but my word, he's a damn shot better than Eagles. I don't think price tags can come into it when defending Eagles, £3M for him is a waste!

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Well yes, as we've agreed most of our team is symptomatic of players not good enough for this league.

Perhaps epitomized in Darren Pratley. Not offered a contract by promoted Swansea and yet currently in our starting eleven. You can carry one or two poor players in this league, but our team is just full of them.

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I don't rate Downing, but my word, he's a damn shot better than Eagles. I don't think price tags can come into it when defending Eagles, £3M for him is a waste!


'but my word, he's a damn shot better than Eagles.'

Must be. With all those goals he's scored this season. Wait a minute....

'I don't think price tags can come into it.'

You like to develop an argument based on your own opinion. At what point is it a waste?? Name me a better wide midfielder for the same price or cheaper who would come to Bolton?



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Was it not Mears and Eagles for a combined 3 mil? I THINK anyway.



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Woody wrote:
Well yes, as we've agreed most of our team is symptomatic of players not good enough for this league.

Perhaps epitomized in Darren Pratley. Not offered a contract by promoted Swansea and yet currently in our starting eleven. You can carry one or two poor players in this league, but our team is just full of them.

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I don't rate Downing, but my word, he's a damn shot better than Eagles. I don't think price tags can come into it when defending Eagles, £3M for him is a waste!


'but my word, he's a damn shot better than Eagles.'

Must be. With all those goals he's scored this season. Wait a minute....

'I don't think price tags can come into it.'

You like to develop an argument based on your own opinion. At what point is it a waste?? Name me a better wide midfielder for the same price or cheaper who would come to Bolton?


Well I'm not sure if you're just arguing for the sake of arguing, but I'm sure there's a reason Chris Eagles has been playing for Burnley in the Championship whereas Downing for Villa in the top six (where he scored goals every season and assisted goals every season). I'd think it's because Downing is a lot better, personally.

I'd like to stress again that I don't rate Downing, but he's much better than Eagles.

Well Matty Taylor's a better midfielder than him and we sold him for less!



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