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Posted: Wed May 16th, 2012 09:53 am |
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BringBackBurndenPark wrote: Mark Connolly. Hmmmm. Was he the one we signed for 1 million from wolves? Played how many games? Zero!!!
Waste of time.........
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Frankie wrote: BringBackBurndenPark wrote: Mark Connolly. Hmmmm. Was he the one we signed for 1 million from wolves? Played how many games? Zero!!!
Waste of time.........
Who's his or ours....
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white4ever wrote:
well if reports are true about reo coker leaving then good riddance only want players who want to fight to get us back up
so , when your boss comes in and says , sorry but your wages are quartered for at least one year because a new contract hasnt happened, you'd go "thats okay boss"
hmm maybe at the moment you would but if you had other job offers coming in, would you really stay?
whats depressing is looking at the list of people to stay and noticing some won't even be able to play due to injuries, we've had a total nightmare season..
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d-f-b wrote: white4ever wrote:
well if reports are true about reo coker leaving then good riddance only want players who want to fight to get us back up
so , when your boss comes in and says , sorry but your wages are quartered for at least one year because a new contract hasnt happened, you'd go "thats okay boss"
hmm maybe at the moment you would but if you had other job offers coming in, would you really stay?
whats depressing is looking at the list of people to stay and noticing some won't even be able to play due to injuries, we've had a total nightmare season..
Although I agree with the sentiment of your argument, in reality there's no comparison really.
Is there anyone on this forum that gets paid as much as NRC? If not I think I can speak for most of us when I say that we'd struggle on a quarter of our current wages. But would Nigel? I don't know what his exact incomings and outgoings are but I would hazard a guess that he'd be in a financial position to be able take a pay cut for a year to help the club get back into the Barclays Premier League (did I say that right?).
I would also like to add that I don't believe that he should feel obliged to do so, but if there are players that do (Petrov?), they would drastically go up in my estimation.
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Posted: Wed May 16th, 2012 11:05 am |
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Catte Strophe wrote: Frankie wrote: BringBackBurndenPark wrote: Mark Connolly. Hmmmm. Was he the one we signed for 1 million from wolves? Played how many games? Zero!!!
Waste of time.........
Who's his or ours....
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Posted: Wed May 16th, 2012 11:06 am |
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| Bolton chairman Phil Gartside reveals to BBC Radio Manchester that the newly-relegated side will slash their wage bill by half. He says: "If you look at our wage bill this year compared to what it was last year, allowing for a couple of people to come in, it will be up to 50 per cent of what we paid out last year."
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Posted: Wed May 16th, 2012 11:20 am |
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Frankie wrote: Bolton chairman Phil Gartside reveals to BBC Radio Manchester that the newly-relegated side will slash their wage bill by half. He says: "If you look at our wage bill this year compared to what it was last year, allowing for a couple of people to come in, it will be up to 50 per cent of what we paid out last year."
A-ha, can I be the first to say re next season's squad "We'll go with what we've got"...................  
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Posted: Wed May 16th, 2012 12:13 pm |
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So NRC has decided to jump ship, and see who'll come sailing by and rescue him this time round?
For a player who has had an important roll in our team, both on and off the pitch - he certainly has filled up quite a few column inches in the paper with his diatribe - for him to decide to bugger off and leave us all to it is a bit bloody rich (metaphorically speaking - I don't know what his bank account is like). He didn't even wave goodbye! He's basically shown himself up as a mercenary, and 'not' a team player, taking part responsibility in this disaster and at least giving it a go to try and get us back up - not even one measly season? And this guy had the captain's armband when KDavies was on the bench! Please choose more wisely next season, Owen.
NRC (and players like him) - one of the reasons I don't get any players names printed on the back of my shirts!
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Posted: Wed May 16th, 2012 12:35 pm |
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I think people are being a little harsh with NRC and his playing ability. Far too many times this season he has been left trying to protect the back four on his own.
Players like Mavies (in particular has been an absolute liability this season), Petrov and Eagles have left him on his own to fend for himself and as a result he was overrun. He was doing the work of two men after Muamba's illness. As well as being Captain!
When Muamba was fit, and we played the three of Muamba, NRC and Mavies (which was rare due to OC's tactical genius) the team looked much more solid and effective (Blackburn away is one example).
That being said, I am extremely dissappointed that he seems to have decided he is leaving. I would have thought with his comments to the media he would have been the first to roll up his sleeves and get down to work in the championship.
If he wants to leave then I won't shed any tears, he would have been a solid member of the squad for next season though....
I would urge you all to wait for an official announcement (unless there has already been one) on NRC's future though. He seems to have an affinity for the club and supporters so I'm hopeful he will stay.
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Greeny2 wrote: Mark Connolly has been released and with Obadeyi we're releasing young talent a well. Didn't we sign Obadeyi from Coventry a few years ago?
Greeny, I have a mate who is a Rochdale fan. He has had the pleasure (or not) of watching Obadeyi in his loan spell(s) there and says he is one of the single worst players he has ever seen.
Wouldn't be too upset he's going...
The release of these two lads does seem to be a real waste of our money and resources though and is very frustrating as a supporter.
(Yes, we did sign Obadeyi from Coventry and I believe the figure was around £1m. Along with £1m for Connolly that's £2m down the shitpan).
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Posted: Wed May 16th, 2012 08:25 pm |
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| S Davis was pretty good in those 3 games though. As much as people hate Megson, he made some good signings.
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Posted: Wed May 16th, 2012 09:05 pm |
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| There's no denying that Red White and Blue. I think I speak on behalf of most Bolton fans when I say that his eye for talent was possibly his best attribute. The problem with that is whilst bringing some good players in he spent about 28 million pounds in transfer fees and if S Davis's wages are anything to go by over 40 million in wages over 3-4 years. This wasn't all Megson's fault- the board members have to also take responsibility but during Megson's tenure we paid transfer fees and wages we just simply couldn't afford. Money has spoilt the game, however those making the decisions at our club chose to live beyond their means. Coyle took a risk this year- a risk that would have paid of if Holden & Lee didn't get injured. That hasn't happened and we have to grin and bear it and come back stronger in the future. Last edited on Wed May 16th, 2012 09:06 pm by christiep
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Posted: Thu May 17th, 2012 05:41 am |
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At least there was a return on Megson's spending. Coyle hasn't brought anyone in that has paid their way.
I like Coyle, don't get me wrong. But his signings have been terrible. I know he hasn't had a huge amount of money to play with but what he has had has been some what squandered.
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Posted: Thu May 17th, 2012 07:36 am |
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Red White and Blue wrote: At least there was a return on Megson's spending. Coyle hasn't brought anyone in that has paid their way.
I like Coyle, don't get me wrong. But his signings have been terrible. I know he hasn't had a huge amount of money to play with but what he has had has been some what squandered.
Stuart Holden
Martin Petrov
David Wheater
Tim Ream
Loans
Jack Wilshere
Daniel Sturridge
.................I don't think his signings have been terrible.
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Posted: Thu May 17th, 2012 08:21 am |
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Mark08 wrote: Red White and Blue wrote: At least there was a return on Megson's spending. Coyle hasn't brought anyone in that has paid their way.
I like Coyle, don't get me wrong. But his signings have been terrible. I know he hasn't had a huge amount of money to play with but what he has had has been some what squandered.
Stuart Holden
Martin Petrov
David Wheater
Tim Ream
Loans
Jack Wilshere
Daniel Sturridge
.................I don't think his signings have been terrible.
GM would make a great scout, or had great scouts ??
Notice you left off Darren Pratley as an OC signing, Boyata as well.
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Catte Strophe wrote: Mark08 wrote: Red White and Blue wrote: At least there was a return on Megson's spending. Coyle hasn't brought anyone in that has paid their way.
I like Coyle, don't get me wrong. But his signings have been terrible. I know he hasn't had a huge amount of money to play with but what he has had has been some what squandered.
Stuart Holden
Martin Petrov
David Wheater
Tim Ream
Loans
Jack Wilshere
Daniel Sturridge
.................I don't think his signings have been terrible.
GM would make a great scout, or had great scouts ??
Notice you left off Darren Pratley as an OC signing, Boyata as well.
I left off more than just them. The point of the list was just to show that not all of OC's signings were "terrible" as quoted above.
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Posted: Thu May 17th, 2012 12:46 pm |
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Blakeman has just signed a new one year contract, so hopefully we might see more of him next season, along with the likes of Riley and Vela.
Also been reading good reports about young Kellett.
So who knows!! Maybe the Academy, might slowly start paying off. Hope so!!.. we don't have money to play with, and at least they won't be high earners...
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Greeny2 wrote: Mark Connolly has been released and with Obadeyi we're releasing young talent a well. Didn't we sign Obadeyi from Coventry a few years ago?
Greeny, I have a mate who is a Rochdale fan. He has had the pleasure (or not) of watching Obadeyi in his loan spell(s) there and says he is one of the single worst players he has ever seen.
Wouldn't be too upset he's going...
The release of these two lads does seem to be a real waste of our money and resources though and is very frustrating as a supporter.
(Yes, we did sign Obadeyi from Coventry and I believe the figure was around £1m. Along with £1m for Connolly that's £2m down the shitpan).
I had got the feeling that Obadeyi wasn't brilliant, not that I've seen him play. Whilst Wanderers were playing midweek during this season (one occasion I think was spurs) he was tweeting about playing for Barcelona. I tweeted back that I felt he should be dreaming of playing for BWFC first! He seemed rarely interested in how the first team was doing so I wont shed too many tears.
Connolly is a different prospect and I'm a little suprised, when we need a centre back next season with Wheater out. All indications have been good about this lad so I think we might live to regret this.
We've also released James Caton 18 year old winger and what do you know Derby are interested as well as other championship clubs, so you can put money on him scoring against us.
I suppose we can't complain as it's cut backs.Last edited on Thu May 17th, 2012 03:01 pm by Greeny2
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Posted: Thu May 17th, 2012 03:03 pm |
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bdi wrote:
Blakeman has just signed a new one year contract, so hopefully we might see more of him next season, along with the likes of Riley and Vela.
Also been reading good reports about young Kellett.
So who knows!! Maybe the Academy, might slowly start paying off. Hope so!!.. we don't have money to That doesn't look financially very smart to me.play with, and at least they won't be high earners...
But why a one year contract? Better surely to give the lad a two year contract. If he makes it into the first team and is any good we can sell him and get a fee. With one year club will be waiting till next summer and snap him up.
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Posted: Thu May 17th, 2012 03:44 pm |
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Greeny2 wrote:
bdi wrote:
Blakeman has just signed a new one year contract, so hopefully we might see more of him next season, along with the likes of Riley and Vela.
Also been reading good reports about young Kellett.
So who knows!! Maybe the Academy, might slowly start paying off. Hope so!!.. we don't have money to That doesn't look financially very smart to me.play with, and at least they won't be high earners...
But why a one year contract? Better surely to give the lad a two year contract. If he makes it into the first team and is any good we can sell him and get a fee. With one year club will be waiting till next summer and snap him up.
Contracts this season I suspect might be performance related in terms of promotion resulting in automatic extensions.
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Posted: Thu May 17th, 2012 05:01 pm |
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| As for obadeyi I remember us selling Danny Ward and giving Tobe a one year contract. Ward showed a lot more potential and I couldn't ever remember obadeyi even playing. Seemed a bit strange to me to be honest but I guess the money is more what we are interested in.
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Posted: Thu May 17th, 2012 07:18 pm |
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Loftys Roar wrote: Greeny2 wrote:
bdi wrote:
Blakeman has just signed a new one year contract, so hopefully we might see more of him next season, along with the likes of Riley and Vela.
Also been reading good reports about young Kellett.
So who knows!! Maybe the Academy, might slowly start paying off. Hope so!!.. we don't have money to That doesn't look financially very smart to me.play with, and at least they won't be high earners...
But why a one year contract? Better surely to give the lad a two year contract. If he makes it into the first team and is any good we can sell him and get a fee. With one year club will be waiting till next summer and snap him up.
Contracts this season I suspect might be performance related in terms of promotion resulting in automatic extensions.
The new one year contract, may be an extension, although doubt it. Always thought they only signed all Academy players initially on one year contracts.
I could be wrong on this though. Normally am on most things...Lol.
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http://www.bwfc.co.uk/page/General/0,,1004~2776253,00.html
Club Statement on who is leaving and who is staying.
Petrov & Chungy are not mentioned !!Last edited on Fri May 18th, 2012 09:27 am by Crazy_Wanderer831
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Crazy_Wanderer831 wrote: http://www.bwfc.co.uk/page/General/0,,1004~2776253,00.html
Club Statement on who is leaving and who is staying.
Petrov & Chungy are not mentioned !!
Chungy isn't out of contract is he? No surprise he isn't mentioned but I'd like to know what's going on with Petrov.
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Posted: Fri May 18th, 2012 09:37 am |
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| Coyle talks a load of bullshit. Does he need to say all that NRC being up front and honest because thats the kind of guy he is bollox.
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Posted: Fri May 18th, 2012 09:41 am |
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Tweek wrote: Coyle talks a load of bullshit. Does he need to say all that NRC being up front and honest because thats the kind of guy he is bollox.
He needs to say it as much as you need to complain about it.
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Mark08 wrote: Crazy_Wanderer831 wrote: http://www.bwfc.co.uk/page/General/0,,1004~2776253,00.html
Club Statement on who is leaving and who is staying.
Petrov & Chungy are not mentioned !!
Chungy isn't out of contract is he? No surprise he isn't mentioned but I'd like to know what's going on with Petrov.
Thought he was..... Well thats a mega bonus if thats the case !!
Any idea when his contract expires ?
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Crazy_Wanderer831 wrote: Mark08 wrote: Crazy_Wanderer831 wrote: http://www.bwfc.co.uk/page/General/0,,1004~2776253,00.html
Club Statement on who is leaving and who is staying.
Petrov & Chungy are not mentioned !!
Chungy isn't out of contract is he? No surprise he isn't mentioned but I'd like to know what's going on with Petrov.
Thought he was..... Well thats a mega bonus if thats the case !!
Any idea when his contract expires ?
No time soon.
Excellent news about Kev and Sam, they'll be invaluable in the Championship.
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Mark08 wrote: Crazy_Wanderer831 wrote: Mark08 wrote: Crazy_Wanderer831 wrote: http://www.bwfc.co.uk/page/General/0,,1004~2776253,00.html
Club Statement on who is leaving and who is staying.
Petrov & Chungy are not mentioned !!
Chungy isn't out of contract is he? No surprise he isn't mentioned but I'd like to know what's going on with Petrov.
Thought he was..... Well thats a mega bonus if thats the case !!
Any idea when his contract expires ?
No time soon.
Excellent news about Kev and Sam, they'll be invaluable in the Championship.
I believe he has two years on his contract, but there will be clauses should a big club come in for him.
No point in mentioning players who are in contract and therefore have no real decision to make at this point.
BBC coverage is their usual slack lazy arsed journalism.. Davies and Ricketts are the only players to commit to the cause, what a waste of ink or pixels.. those let go actually none surprise me and none that alarm me...
Really glad to see the back of Paul Robinson, was a yard dog when we signed him and always achieved that level when at the club. actually looked worse playing for Leeds as nobody realised they had to cover for the "Prem" player..
OC mentioning NRC's qualities just shows that he has class, and flags this to potential new signings, they may read that and think he the fella is genuine and should I sign then he will not stand in my way should a better opportunity arise in the future.
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