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Liam
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Posted: Sun May 13th, 2012 09:36 pm |
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http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/championship/next-season
10-1 for promotion next season already.
(Best odds - i.e. best return for your quid and not the shortest odds.)
Leicester Favourites 8-1
Leeds 9-1
Birmingham 10-1
Bolton 10-1
Wolves 10-1
Brighton 16-1
Blackburn 16-1
Cardiff 16-1
Sheff Weds 16-1
Boro 18-1
Charlton 20-1
Burnley 25-1
Ipswich 25-1
Forrest 25-1
Derby 40-1
Watford 50-1
Bristol City 66-1
Millwall 66-1
Palace 80-1
Peterborough 100-1
Barnsley 200-1
Actually listing those teams is surreal, many are teams I grew up as being big, big teams and prem/top tier teams. Will be in a way good to play them all again.
I suppose you gotta factor in Blackpool or West Ham too and Stevenage or Shef Utd.
I'd say bookies would go:
Stevenage 500-1
Shef Utd 25-1
WHU 8-1
Blackpool 10-1
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Posted: Sun May 13th, 2012 09:54 pm |
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| 10-1? its like taking candy from a baby...
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Posted: Mon May 14th, 2012 01:07 am |
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| These odds are to come up as champions I think.
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Posted: Mon May 14th, 2012 09:19 am |
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| Unlikly imao
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Posted: Mon May 14th, 2012 11:47 am |
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| Get real, we have no chance. A new team in an unfamiliar division, with no money. = no chance
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Posted: Mon May 14th, 2012 04:22 pm |
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| Why would leicester be favorites again.
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Posted: Mon May 14th, 2012 05:29 pm |
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I wouldn't bet on promotion within then next ten years
In fact I'd back us to be relegated more than to go up
Our golden era is over - it's shit and more shit for the foreseeable
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Posted: Tue May 15th, 2012 09:17 pm |
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Cowdrill wrote: I wouldn't bet on promotion within then next ten years
In fact I'd back us to be relegated more than to go up
Our golden era is over - it's shit and more shit for the foreseeable
No chance of relegation - assuming there's no fire sale I'd be amazed if we don't make the play-offs at least.
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Posted: Mon May 28th, 2012 09:31 pm |
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Billy Bradshaw wrote: I've had a tenner.
Will the winnings fund the site, maybe we should have a charity bet in aid of Derian House ??
I will put a few quid on, not sure as champions though..
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Posted: Tue May 29th, 2012 09:20 am |
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Catte Strophe wrote: Billy Bradshaw wrote: I've had a tenner.
Will the winnings fund the site, maybe we should have a charity bet in aid of Derian House ??
I will put a few quid on, not sure as champions though..
Can't remember if I backed us for promotion or to be champions. I probably cocked-up and bet for us to win it.  But good money if it comes in.
But i like the idea of a charity bet. If those on the forum who like a flutter put a couple of quid on football, a horse...whatever, it could raise a few quid. they could decide beforehand whether all the money will go to charity or just part of it?
That's a cracking idea Catte....shall we try it?
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Posted: Tue May 29th, 2012 10:25 am |
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| Might put some on us see us at least in the play offs.
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Posted: Tue May 29th, 2012 10:29 am |
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| Really am looking forward to it hopefully we have a team which will entertain and be right up there in a very competitive league.
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Posted: Tue May 29th, 2012 10:29 am |
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| Really am looking forward to it hopefully we have a team which will entertain and be right up there in a very competitive league.
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Posted: Tue May 29th, 2012 10:35 am |
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Billy Bradshaw wrote: Catte Strophe wrote: Billy Bradshaw wrote: I've had a tenner.
Will the winnings fund the site, maybe we should have a charity bet in aid of Derian House ??
I will put a few quid on, not sure as champions though..
Can't remember if I backed us for promotion or to be champions. I probably cocked-up and bet for us to win it. But good money if it comes in.
But i like the idea of a charity bet. If those on the forum who like a flutter put a couple of quid on football, a horse...whatever, it could raise a few quid. they could decide beforehand whether all the money will go to charity or just part of it?
That's a cracking idea Catte....shall we try it?
Why not, sure we are a generous group
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I am putting a tenner on us to go up. Looking back at last season we missed out by a point. The league was that average just look up at where Stoke and others finished - 6 points above us. how we managed to snatch relegation from the jaws of survival God only knows.
We haven't lost too many players that I think would have been invaluable this coming season.
Sordell and Ngog will score loads, and with the addition of possibly 2 in midfield and 1 or 2 at the back we should be more solid.
Do we get 19million as a parachute payment this year? If so, add that to wages cut from players released and we should be able to afford some players without selling.
I know there is a huge debt but to clear that we need to get back to the 'promised land'
COYWM, win me some dosh
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adlyd_wanderers wrote: I know there is a huge debt but to clear that we need to get back to the 'promised land'
See, I don't get that.
Don't understand the NEED to get back somewhere we were losing about £8m a year.
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| Huddersfield might not be a bad bet. Their owner is loaded and will be no doubt heavily investing once again!
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Posted: Tue May 29th, 2012 07:26 pm |
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| Are we still 10/1?
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Posted: Wed May 30th, 2012 08:24 am |
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Legend wrote: adlyd_wanderers wrote: I know there is a huge debt but to clear that we need to get back to the 'promised land'
See, I don't get that.
Don't understand the NEED to get back somewhere we were losing about £8m a year.
Me either, I would take the 3 years of parachute payments to put the club on good standing then take a promotion..
3 years of handing out lesson's before promtion will do me.
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Posted: Wed May 30th, 2012 08:47 am |
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Catte Strophe wrote: Legend wrote: adlyd_wanderers wrote: I know there is a huge debt but to clear that we need to get back to the 'promised land'
See, I don't get that.
Don't understand the NEED to get back somewhere we were losing about £8m a year.
Me either, I would take the 3 years of parachute payments to put the club on good standing then take a promotion..
3 years of handing out lesson's before promtion will do me.
I agree in principle. But I wouldn't cry myself to sleep at night if we got promoted first time. 
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Posted: Wed May 30th, 2012 09:14 am |
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| And think of the money we'd make ripping off premier league clubs selling them only half decent players because they look like world beaters in the Championship.
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Legend wrote:
adlyd_wanderers wrote: I know there is a huge debt but to clear that we need to get back to the 'promised land'
See, I don't get that.
Don't understand the NEED to get back somewhere we were losing about £8m a year.
Trouble is now we're in the championship we could be losing £16m a year or worse. Thats probably in the mind of adlyd, and if thats the case (we actually lose more money in the championship) then yes we need to get back to the Prem asap.
I think the view on here is that we will lose less money in the championship and if thats not the case then the club cuts even more more staff and even more wages until sometime in the distant future we actually manage to balance the books. If that means we have to sink into the Vauxhall conference to do it, then so be it.
I'd like to see who we get in before I would put a bet on returning to the Prem. At the moment I just don't see it. With Gartside suggesting that the only people coming into the club are loans, albeit from top six premiership clubs and given the clubs philosophy of only bringing in under 24 year olds, I'm not sure that we have what it takes to go straight back up. Dare I suggest we might even have the dreaded R word again.
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Greeny2 wrote: Legend wrote:
adlyd_wanderers wrote: I know there is a huge debt but to clear that we need to get back to the 'promised land'
See, I don't get that.
Don't understand the NEED to get back somewhere we were losing about £8m a year.
Trouble is now we're in the championship we could be losing £16m a year or worse. Thats probably in the mind of adlyd, and if thats the case (we actually lose more money in the championship) then yes we need to get back to the Prem asap.
I think the view on here is that we will lose less money in the championship and if thats not the case then the club cuts even more more staff and even more wages until sometime in the distant future we actually manage to balance the books. If that means we have to sink into the Vauxhall conference to do it, then so be it.
I'd like to see who we get in before I would put a bet on returning to the Prem. At the moment I just don't see it. With Gartside suggesting that the only people coming into the club are loans, albeit from top six premiership clubs and given the clubs philosophy of only bringing in under 24 year olds, I'm not sure that we have what it takes to go straight back up. Dare I suggest we might even have the dreaded R word again.
I'm not sure we will Greeny? We can almost ignore the debt to ED in terms of comparing ourselves to the likes of Leeds etc. Banks can and do call in debts. ED is a fan and must realise that to bankrupt the club by calling in the debt means he'll get nowt. Right now he gets £5m a year.
The worst case scenario for me is that we don't get out of this division for a few seasons. But I don't genuinely see relegation being a threat. We've already got rid of most of the deadwood and we'll bring some new talent in. I'd expect us to be (at least) challenging for the play-offs.
But who really knows?
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Posted: Wed May 30th, 2012 04:05 pm |
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Billy Bradshaw wrote:
Greeny2 wrote: Legend wrote:
adlyd_wanderers wrote: I know there is a huge debt but to clear that we need to get back to the 'promised land'
See, I don't get that.
Don't understand the NEED to get back somewhere we were losing about £8m a year.
Trouble is now we're in the championship we could be losing £16m a year or worse. Thats probably in the mind of adlyd, and if thats the case (we actually lose more money in the championship) then yes we need to get back to the Prem asap.
I think the view on here is that we will lose less money in the championship and if thats not the case then the club cuts even more more staff and even more wages until sometime in the distant future we actually manage to balance the books. If that means we have to sink into the Vauxhall conference to do it, then so be it.
I'd like to see who we get in before I would put a bet on returning to the Prem. At the moment I just don't see it. With Gartside suggesting that the only people coming into the club are loans, albeit from top six premiership clubs and given the clubs philosophy of only bringing in under 24 year olds, I'm not sure that we have what it takes to go straight back up. Dare I suggest we might even have the dreaded R word again.
I'm not sure we will Greeny? We can almost ignore the debt to ED in terms of comparing ourselves to the likes of Leeds etc. Banks can and do call in debts. ED is a fan and must realise that to bankrupt the club by calling in the debt means he'll get nowt. Right now he gets £5m a year.
The worst case scenario for me is that we don't get out of this division for a few seasons. But I don't genuinely see relegation being a threat. We've already got rid of most of the deadwood and we'll bring some new talent in. I'd expect us to be (at least) challenging for the play-offs.
But who really knows?
What will be interesting is if our attendance holds up. Will we be getting 23,000 a week attendances or close to that. If only 12,000 attend then yes we will be losing a lot more in the championship then the prem as a lot of sponsorship money is attendance based.
If we do go to 12,000 then tweleve months on and no promotion then the situation is very gloomy indeed. Here's hoping we get promotion.
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I think we can manage the club so we lose less in the Championship - although at the risk of facing further relegation because we won't pay high enough wages to attrract even Championship-quality players. I don't believe we will ever reduce the debt. So the long-term future of the club is enitrely in Eddie Davies' hands.
Forget Austerity Britain, it's Austerity Bolton. Maybe Phil Gartside is really George Osbourne.
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Posted: Thu May 31st, 2012 08:43 am |
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At this present time I do not fear a further relegation, or any financial melt down.
I believe there has been an ongoing effort to reduce the cost of the club whilst improving the earning power of the club.
A massive gamble was taken and events conspired to make the task even more difficult. We threw the dice and lost. But I also believe that the risk has been managed, of course financially we would have been better to be in the Prem, we are a championship side with a championship structure in place.
If we do ever pay the debt to ED off it will be many years in the future, but the days of the debt spiralling should now be behind us.
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Bolton now 3rd Favourite. Birmingham slipping to 12-1
Leicester 7-1
Wolves 9-1
Bolton 10-1
Above are best odds.
Shortest odds is
Leicester 5-1, Wolves 7-1, Bolton 7-1, Birmingham 8-1
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| Ive put £20.00 on us being champions...I am confident we'll walk it...but only time will tell
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