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Posted: Mon May 28th, 2012 07:49 am |
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I'm no fan of knight
And that's an understatement
But the championship is a far lower standard
He will do fine in that league
We need as many defenders as we can get!
I think we need to prepare for the future after all we could end up having him for two years. Let him go to america.
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| Have boat will take him, no charge.
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supPUP wrote: Legend wrote: Nah, I can't swallow that one. It's not like clubs are fighting over him & he's choosing us.
Signing a new contract for humumgous amounts of money (by our personal standards) isn't showing commitment when he wasn't looking that committed on the field last season.
Yea I get what you mean. Thing is ever since he joined he's been terrible, so why has he even been at our club for so long? Can't understand why Coyle is even considering giving him a new contract, there has got to be better cheaper alternatives. 
No, Knight's not good enough for the Championship. He's barely good enough for the conference. The question is, does he know it and is he willing to adjust his wage demands appropriately?
There is no player at Bolton for whom I would say "not at any price". £1,000-£2,000 per week for someone like Knight to sit on the bench in case needed would be an excellent deal. That's not a humungous amount of money.
The problem is that I take the view that the majority of the current team are only fit for the bench and a £1,000-£2,000 per week wage. Holden, Lee and Bogdan aside, we lack the real talent to move forward. A team needs a solid squad providing the club with a safety net, but it also needs an impressive first team. Bolton has the former (but has been paying too much for it) and lacks the latter.
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Posted: Mon May 28th, 2012 10:06 pm |
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| Wouldn't play Knight in a pub team! I hate the way he flings his hands in the air when we've conceded, when it's usually down to a mistake HE made in the build-up. But perhaps the championship is his level?
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Posted: Mon May 28th, 2012 10:10 pm |
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Championship strikers are shit
I'm convinced he would be ... adequate
Until wheater returns
Then he can f*ck off
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BringBackBurndenPark
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| DJ Campbell??
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Posted: Tue May 29th, 2012 09:01 pm |
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BringBackBurndenPark wrote: DJ Campbell??
Is that Nicky 
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Posted: Tue May 29th, 2012 09:31 pm |
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| Haha no you plonker!
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jonnobwfc
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Posted: Wed May 30th, 2012 11:53 am |
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| Heard rumours about us signing Papa Bouba Diop on a free. Not sure about this one, was good at Fulham but not the same player since.
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Posted: Wed May 30th, 2012 12:01 pm |
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jonnobwfc wrote: Heard rumours about us signing Papa Bouba Diop on a free. Not sure about this one, was good at Fulham but not the same player since.
But then, players of his level might go down a storm in the Championship? The biggest problem we have (outside of our defensive issues) is pace. Skill costs money but IMO, pace costs even more. That's the real difference between good and an average PL striker. In the Championship, it will be more physical and slower. Even KD should bag a few more if he has more space.
So players like this could do a job for us. I just hope we don't fill the team with a lot of older players just to try and get a quick promotion. We need a mix and since we've now been relegated, this is the time to put the right blend in place.
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Posted: Wed May 30th, 2012 01:41 pm |
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jonnobwfc wrote: Heard rumours about us signing Papa Bouba Diop on a free. Not sure about this one, was good at Fulham but not the same player since.
Funny I was thinking that Diop would do a job for us, think he has had a couple of injuries that have held him back. BSA thinks his days in the top flight are over.
I like the way he runs over people would be a big hit with us if we could get him fit.
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Posted: Wed May 30th, 2012 02:37 pm |
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supPUP wrote: Legend wrote: Nah, I can't swallow that one. It's not like clubs are fighting over him & he's choosing us.
Signing a new contract for humumgous amounts of money (by our personal standards) isn't showing commitment when he wasn't looking that committed on the field last season.
Yea I get what you mean. Thing is ever since he joined he's been terrible, so why has he even been at our club for so long? Can't understand why Coyle is even considering giving him a new contract, there has got to be better cheaper alternatives.
No, Knight's not good enough for the Championship. He's barely good enough for the conference. The question is, does he know it and is he willing to adjust his wage demands appropriately?
There is no player at Bolton for whom I would say "not at any price". £1,000-£2,000 per week for someone like Knight to sit on the bench in case needed would be an excellent deal. That's not a humungous amount of money.
The problem is that I take the view that the majority of the current team are only fit for the bench and a £1,000-£2,000 per week wage. Holden, Lee and Bogdan aside, we lack the real talent to move forward. A team needs a solid squad providing the club with a safety net, but it also needs an impressive first team. Bolton has the former (but has been paying too much for it) and lacks the latter.
Though I would agree Knight aint particularly good, I shouldn't thought that he would settle for less than £15,000 a week and except for the youngsters thats what most experienced players will be on Premiership or not. A lot of the youngsters will be £5000 a week. Even Carlisle are signing 16 years olds straight from their academies and they're on £1000 a week.
We may have cut the wages but it's only by 50%. To get to £1000 a week the cut would have to be more than 50%!
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Posted: Wed May 30th, 2012 02:42 pm |
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£15k a week in the Championship. 
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Posted: Wed May 30th, 2012 11:21 pm |
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Greeny2 wrote: Sprout wrote:
supPUP wrote: Legend wrote: Nah, I can't swallow that one. It's not like clubs are fighting over him & he's choosing us.
Signing a new contract for humumgous amounts of money (by our personal standards) isn't showing commitment when he wasn't looking that committed on the field last season.
Yea I get what you mean. Thing is ever since he joined he's been terrible, so why has he even been at our club for so long? Can't understand why Coyle is even considering giving him a new contract, there has got to be better cheaper alternatives.
No, Knight's not good enough for the Championship. He's barely good enough for the conference. The question is, does he know it and is he willing to adjust his wage demands appropriately?
There is no player at Bolton for whom I would say "not at any price". £1,000-£2,000 per week for someone like Knight to sit on the bench in case needed would be an excellent deal. That's not a humungous amount of money.
The problem is that I take the view that the majority of the current team are only fit for the bench and a £1,000-£2,000 per week wage. Holden, Lee and Bogdan aside, we lack the real talent to move forward. A team needs a solid squad providing the club with a safety net, but it also needs an impressive first team. Bolton has the former (but has been paying too much for it) and lacks the latter.
Though I would agree Knight aint particularly good, I shouldn't thought that he would settle for less than £15,000 a week and except for the youngsters thats what most experienced players will be on Premiership or not. A lot of the youngsters will be £5000 a week. Even Carlisle are signing 16 years olds straight from their academies and they're on £1000 a week.
We may have cut the wages but it's only by 50%. To get to £1000 a week the cut would have to be more than 50%!
I don't disagree, I think you missed the point of my post. Knight is only worth £1k-£2K per week (which is still the same as a headteacher).
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Posted: Thu May 31st, 2012 11:40 am |
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If Knight really wanted to stay, as Coyle has suggested, then he would have signed by now and not waited to see what else is out there. I think we should just show him the door as he's already said "he wants a year in english football then finish off his career in the MLS", the bloke has no commitent to BWFC and even if he signed, he wouldnt give 2 sh*tes if we dont get promoted first time round. 
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Posted: Thu May 31st, 2012 12:26 pm |
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Wigan White wrote: If Knight really wanted to stay, as Coyle has suggested, then he would have signed by now and not waited to see what else is out there. I think we should just show him the door as he's already said "he wants a year in english football then finish off his career in the MLS", the bloke has no commitent to BWFC and even if he signed, he wouldnt give 2 sh*tes if we dont get promoted first time round.
IMHO Zat Knight treats this as his job and does not play the game for the love of the game, now there is nothing wrong with that approach if like David Batty you do it to the very best of your ability with total effort. To my mind Zat fails to apply what talent he has and it is some time since he put any effort in.
6 Feet 7 inches Centre back, with a modicum of talent and discipline you would expect an array of international caps.. Tells it's own story really.
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2012 01:03 pm |
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http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11672/7789995/O-Dea-set-for-English-return
Never heard of him.
Is this what we can expect this summer? At least last season I'd heard of the players we were 'linked' with.
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2012 01:06 pm |
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| He played last season for Leeds United and some of my LUFC fans didnt rate him. They had him on loan from Celtic i think.
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2012 01:12 pm |
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Great name for a defender. "Oh dear! Bolton have concedced again!". 
Get him and that goalie fella who has an r in the right place in his surname and it could be: "Oh dear! What a cock up between the defender and the keeper!"  Last edited on Fri Jun 1st, 2012 01:14 pm by Valderee
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2012 02:04 pm |
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Zat knight released.
http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/other/premier-league-released-list.pdf
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Loftys Roar wrote: Zat knight released.
http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/other/premier-league-released-list.pdf
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2012 02:11 pm |
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| I now feel alittle more confident for next season
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2012 02:29 pm |
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Loftys Roar wrote: Zat knight released.
http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/other/premier-league-released-list.pdf
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Loftys Roar wrote: Zat knight released.
http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/other/premier-league-released-list.pdf
This seems a bit out of date, Paul Scholes has signed a 1 year deal. I haven't seen anything from the club to say Knight has turned down terms so I'll reserve celebration until it's confirmed.
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2012 04:09 pm |
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Philsfaxmachine wrote:
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Loftys Roar wrote: Zat knight released.
http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/other/premier-league-released-list.pdf
This seems a bit out of date, Paul Scholes has signed a 1 year deal. I haven't seen anything from the club to say Knight has turned down terms so I'll reserve celebration until it's confirmed.
And according to that Danny Guthrie has been released. Back to Bolton then (lol)
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2012 04:34 pm |
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Raising false hopes.
He was out of contract, so officially he's released. But only until he signs Coyle's new contract offer.
We can but hope.
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2012 04:43 pm |
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Philsfaxmachine wrote:
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Loftys Roar wrote: Zat knight released.
http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/other/premier-league-released-list.pdf
This seems a bit out of date, Paul Scholes has signed a 1 year deal. I haven't seen anything from the club to say Knight has turned down terms so I'll reserve celebration until it's confirmed.
Its was probably printed about 3-4 days ago. But he hasnt signed contract so technically on month to month if the club dont officially released him.
Would look to take Hargreaves or Murphy for the season. Experience and ball keepers. Yes injuries but have young players around them. Like B Ferguson at Blackpool.
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| Danny guthrie was decent.
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2012 05:39 pm |
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| Guthrie may be ok at championship level but never impressed me when ever i've seen him play
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| Guthrie and Mark Davies in the same team just wouldn't work neither are great all round midfielders imo. Last edited on Fri Jun 1st, 2012 08:04 pm by craig bwfc
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