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Any news on Petrov yet?
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sweetmcdonald wrote: What's all this 'Gardner has been a good servant' crap. For the last two seasons he has sat back and watched the cash come in. If anyone has been a servant it's been BWFC to him.
Obvbiously a new supporter, that is if you have ever been one.
Bibi, has been a great servant for Bolton. You slag hin off as a nobody. Probably one of the most liked players ever to wear a Bolton shirt.
IMO, All BWFC Supporters will wish him all the best, wherever he ends up... (Excepting one that is).
Please keep to being Ramsey... He was also a pain in the asre as well...
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What's all this 'Gardner has been a good servant' crap. For the last two seasons he has sat back and watched the cash come in. If anyone has been a servant it's been BWFC to him.
You talk an astonishing amount of horse shit
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sweetmcdonald wrote: Bolton have always had an academy, it just wasn't called that in the past.
BWFC is the only club in the history of the FA cup to win it (58) with the entire 11 coming up through the youth teams. the whole team cost £110. £10 each player signing-on fee. Obviously something that will never happen again.
Thought they were the last team to do this not the only team.
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cardiffwhite wrote:
Any news on Petrov yet?
(Gardner = legend)
Phil Garside was asked this on Twitter and he hassaid that Petrov had already signed and is staying at the club.
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Posted: Mon May 21st, 2012 09:59 am |
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Ricardo, unfortunate with injuries else bigger clubs would have been knocking on the door.
He always put a shift in and would play anywhere, thanks for the memories of Munich and good luck for the future Bibi.
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Reo - Coker on the list for Big Sam at West Ham and Seville. Big Sam is welcome to him
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Regarding the previous Gardener posts.
I remember when he first came here and his mother was (reportedly) a bit worried about her son going out into the big wide world. The 'Reggae Boy' (spelling?) came with great expectations, which he, apart from the odd occasion, did not really live up too.
He was one of those players who were more popular with the fans because of his personality rather than his football ability.
I have enjoyed watching him play and wish him well for the future, but let's have a bit of reality, he was not a 'great servant' (he was a very well paid employee) and I cannot agree that he will go down in the 'Great Book of BWFC Legends'.
I disagree with many opinions posted on here. So what. You have your view I have mine. There is no need for people to get offensive, that should have been left behind in the school play-ground. But then again, maybe you are still at school, I don't know how old you are.
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Catastrophe wrote: sweet mcdonald wrote: Bolton have always had an academy, it just wasn't called that in the past.
BWFC is the only club in the history of the FA cup to win it (58) with the entire 11 coming up through the youth teams. the whole team cost £110. £10 each player signing-on fee. Obviously something that will never happen again.
Thought they were the last team to do this not the only team.
Catasto the best of my knowledge BWFC are the only club to have done this, but of course I may be wrong.
Edit .
PS. that team in 58, all of whom came up through the youth teams, contained five England international.
Hopkinson
Banks
Lofthouse
Parry
Holden
Though at the time I think only Eddie and Nat were capped.
I think Dennis Stevens later played for the now defunct 'Football League' team when he later played for Everton.
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sweetmcdonald wrote:
Regarding the previous Gardener posts.
I remember when he first came here and his mother was (reportedly) a bit worried about her son going out into the big wide world. The 'Reggae Boy' (spelling?) came with great expectations, which he, apart from the odd occasion, did not really live up too.
Well if we had eleven players of his quality (shown, let's say, between 1999 and 2009) we'd still be in the top half of the Premier League, don't you think?
I'm not sure what more you want from a player? If I was to name the few players who have been superb for this football club over the last twelve years of unprecedented success for a club of our size in this modern world, then Gardner would be one of the first on my list.
Your refusal to like a player as a person and just see him as an employee is both hilarious and a saddening state of the modern football world.
'Employee' or not, if you can't celebrate a decade of Premier League quality service - whether he's getting paid well or not - then I genuinely don't know who can be considered a modern day 'great'. Enlighten me. Please.
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Im 38
I've been a Bolton fan for about 30 of those years
Down to div 4 and back up to the top flight again
Ive seen hundreds of players come and go
Gardner isn't exacty one of the greatest - far from it
But of ALL the players I've seen in a White shirt he was the hardest working
Literally never stopped running
Actually earnt his huge wages
In that time he had spells where he was excellent
Then he'd get another bad injury
Is that his fault?
Everyone is entitled to their opinions
And my opinion is that anybody that has a bad word to say against this lad is a tit
A true professional, a gentleman - who had what could have been a brilliant career cruelly disrupted by serious injuries
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Woody and Cowdrill, You put your interpretation on what I said then ask me to defend it.
Nowhere did I say that I didn't like him or did I have a bad word for him.
I think when fans look back on Gardner's carrera their thoughts of him are clouded with 'what might have been'. He was a fair/good player (I'd give him 7/10) who, but for injuries could have been better. I'm not criticizing him in any way, just saying he was not a great player.Last edited on Tue May 22nd, 2012 06:04 am by sweetmcdonald
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Woody and Cowdrill, You put your interpretation on what I said then ask me to defend it.
Nowhere did I say that I didn't like him or did I have a bad word for him.
I think when fans look back on Gardner's carrera their thoughts of him are clouded with 'what might have been'. He was a fair/good player (I'd give him 7/10) who, but for injuries could have been better. I'm not criticizing him in any way, just saying he was not a great player.
You said this, which was criticising him a lot:
sweetmcdonald wrote:
What's all this 'Gardner has been a good servant' crap. For the last two seasons he has sat back and watched the cash come in. If anyone has been a servant it's been BWFC to him.
I have challenged that. You have not responded with any sort of answer. We aren't talking about Sean Davis, who has cost the club millions per game, we are talking about a player who was there when we came up, and has played a pivotal role in every success we have achieved since then.
If over a decade of service isn't worth celebrating, what is? It appears to me that you're clouded by your view of every footballer as a money-grabbing waste of oxygen, well, that's just the times we live in I'm afraid. I honestly just don't understand how you can spout such nonsense as the above post.
Fair enough if you were trying to get a reaction out of people, you've achieved it, but then it's not hard when you're slagging off one of the clubs best servants over the past fifteen years.Last edited on Tue May 22nd, 2012 08:23 am by Woody
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Any news on Petrov yet?
(Gardner = legend) Petrov had already signed a new contract till next season and has said he wants to stay .That was on ssn this morning coming from Phil Gartside,now waiting on Jussi and Knight.
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From Marc Iles, a review of Ricardo Gardner, from The BN.
Apols, but it is a long read... 
Farewell to Ricardo
12:30pm Saturday 19th May 2012 in Latest By Marc Iles
HE arrived as a wet-behind-the-ears Reggae Boy fresh from the World Cup, but grew into a warrior who featured heavily in Wanderers’ Premier League journey.
Ricardo Gardner yesterday severed links with Bolton Wanderers after 14 years, leaving long-time team-mate Jussi Jaaskelainen – himself facing an uncertain future – as the last remaining link to the days of second-tier football.
Relegation certainly wasn’t the note the music loving Jamaica international wanted to bow out on, particularly as his last appearance ended prematurely with a red card in defeat at Swansea last October.
Since then, a succession of injury problems – a familiar hardship in his time at the Reebok – have forced him to seek his own course of treatment at a knee specialist in Amsterdam.
Although Gardner racked up 409 appearances for the club since Colin Todd snapped him up from Harbour View in 1998 for £1million, it’s safe to assume he would be rubbing shoulders with the club’s all-time stalwarts had injuries not bitten so hard into his career.
Cruciate ligament problems in 2002 and 2004 prompted long spells on the sidelines, while in recent seasons, issues with thigh and hamstrings have been largely to blame for his lack of first-team action under Owen Coyle.
Another knee issue prompted Gardner to seek help on the continent and write off the current campaign, but with a return to international football planned for next month, this won’t be the end of the road for the popular figure we’ve come to know as Bibi.
Such is his affinity with the fans, that a number have called for the club to grant him a testimonial – an issue that was spoken about four years ago when it was mooted that a Caribbean XI could play at the Reebok.
And it would certainly seem fitting that the man whose 29 goals for the club included memorable strikes against Preston North End in the play-off final victory at the Millennium Stadium and Bayern Munich in the famous 2-2 draw in the UEFA Cup, should be given a proper chance to say goodbye.
Gardner did take to his recently opened Twitter account yesterday to pay a tribute in 140 characters.
“Thanks for the kind messages. Enjoyed every moment at BWFC, great club with great supporters.Wish them all the best for the future. God Bless.”
Considering what a shy teenager he was when he arrived all those years ago, Gardner went on to mature incredibly under the eyes of the Wanderers fans.
Outside football, he launched his own record label – Heart of Love Productions – and has achieved legendary status in his home country for consistent charity work.
It is all a far cry from the young whippersnapper who burst onto the scene in the Championship as a raw, pacy winger, and scored just 60 seconds into his league debut at West Brom. But as Wanderers established themselves in the big time, Sam Allardyce opted to employ him as a raiding wing-back, which would remain his calling until the arrival of Gary Megson in 2007.
Lacking creativity in the middle of the park, Megson used the tenacious Gardner primarily as a central midfielder, and his nomadic existence would continue under his successor Owen Coyle. The current Whites boss never really got to see the best of the boy from St Andrew, however, and some were surprised when the club offered him another 12 months on appearance-related terms last summer.
Gardner managed only six appearances in league and cup this season but showed he was anything but a spent force with a fine display at full-back in the Carling Cup win at Aston Villa.
Injuries hit home once more at the end of 2011, leaving the 33-year-old one of 15 players released as the club dropped out of the Premiership.
It was a disappointing way to end his affiliation with Bolton, but those who watched him grow up will join us in thanking him for the memories.
As far as I am concerned, a fair assessment, no matter what some peoples personal views are.
I wish him all the best in whatever he does in the future, and would expect him to help very much with the improvement of Jamaican Football...
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sweetmcdonald wrote: Woody and Cowdrill, You put your interpretation on what I said then ask me to defend it.
Nowhere did I say that I didn't like him or did I have a bad word for him.
I think when fans look back on Gardner's carrera their thoughts of him are clouded with 'what might have been'. He was a fair/good player (I'd give him 7/10) who, but for injuries could have been better. I'm not criticizing him in any way, just saying he was not a great player.
Reverse, reverse, reverse.. Sweet Mc you post some drivel and some of it is offensive but we take it in our stride and let it lie but you were critical of Ricardo and fairly offensive about the lad.
He has always stood up and been counted when fit, played wherever asked and probably the best away game I can remember in Munich he did more than his bit.
If we choose to think of him as one of the better players then so be it, I am not sure why this prompts you to criticise the lad whose career has been blighted by injury, injuries sustained in trying to do his best for the club.
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bdi wrote:
From Marc Iles, a review of Ricardo Gardner, from The BN.
Apols, but it is a long read...
Farewell to Ricardo
12:30pm Saturday 19th May 2012 in Latest By Marc Iles
He was a wonderful player for us. No not a legend like McGinley,Walker, Worthington or Lofthouse but a good player none the less.
Still think we shouldn't have had him last season and that to a large extent has been born out. If he'd have gone last year he would have been with West ham and celebrating promotion as well as going out on a high with us. As it is he has the relgation bit on his history. That's a pity really. The same of course applies to Jussi. BTW West Ham have already signed a keeper so jussi is no longer on Big Sams wanted list.
HE arrived as a wet-behind-the-ears Reggae Boy fresh from the World Cup, but grew into a warrior who featured heavily in Wanderers’ Premier League journey.
Ricardo Gardner yesterday severed links with Bolton Wanderers after 14 years, leaving long-time team-mate Jussi Jaaskelainen – himself facing an uncertain future – as the last remaining link to the days of second-tier football.
Relegation certainly wasn’t the note the music loving Jamaica international wanted to bow out on, particularly as his last appearance ended prematurely with a red card in defeat at Swansea last October.
Since then, a succession of injury problems – a familiar hardship in his time at the Reebok – have forced him to seek his own course of treatment at a knee specialist in Amsterdam.
Although Gardner racked up 409 appearances for the club since Colin Todd snapped him up from Harbour View in 1998 for £1million, it’s safe to assume he would be rubbing shoulders with the club’s all-time stalwarts had injuries not bitten so hard into his career.
Cruciate ligament problems in 2002 and 2004 prompted long spells on the sidelines, while in recent seasons, issues with thigh and hamstrings have been largely to blame for his lack of first-team action under Owen Coyle.
Another knee issue prompted Gardner to seek help on the continent and write off the current campaign, but with a return to international football planned for next month, this won’t be the end of the road for the popular figure we’ve come to know as Bibi.
Such is his affinity with the fans, that a number have called for the club to grant him a testimonial – an issue that was spoken about four years ago when it was mooted that a Caribbean XI could play at the Reebok.
And it would certainly seem fitting that the man whose 29 goals for the club included memorable strikes against Preston North End in the play-off final victory at the Millennium Stadium and Bayern Munich in the famous 2-2 draw in the UEFA Cup, should be given a proper chance to say goodbye.
Gardner did take to his recently opened Twitter account yesterday to pay a tribute in 140 characters.
“Thanks for the kind messages. Enjoyed every moment at BWFC, great club with great supporters.Wish them all the best for the future. God Bless.”
Considering what a shy teenager he was when he arrived all those years ago, Gardner went on to mature incredibly under the eyes of the Wanderers fans.
Outside football, he launched his own record label – Heart of Love Productions – and has achieved legendary status in his home country for consistent charity work.
It is all a far cry from the young whippersnapper who burst onto the scene in the Championship as a raw, pacy winger, and scored just 60 seconds into his league debut at West Brom. But as Wanderers established themselves in the big time, Sam Allardyce opted to employ him as a raiding wing-back, which would remain his calling until the arrival of Gary Megson in 2007.
Lacking creativity in the middle of the park, Megson used the tenacious Gardner primarily as a central midfielder, and his nomadic existence would continue under his successor Owen Coyle. The current Whites boss never really got to see the best of the boy from St Andrew, however, and some were surprised when the club offered him another 12 months on appearance-related terms last summer.
Gardner managed only six appearances in league and cup this season but showed he was anything but a spent force with a fine display at full-back in the Carling Cup win at Aston Villa.
Injuries hit home once more at the end of 2011, leaving the 33-year-old one of 15 players released as the club dropped out of the Premiership.
It was a disappointing way to end his affiliation with Bolton, but those who watched him grow up will join us in thanking him for the memories.
As far as I am concerned, a fair assessment, no matter what some peoples personal views are.
I wish him all the best in whatever he does in the future, and would expect him to help very much with the improvement of Jamaican Football...
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Catastrophe wrote: sweet mcdonald wrote: Woody and Cowdrill, You put your interpretation on what I said then ask me to defend it.
Nowhere did I say that I didn't like him or did I have a bad word for him.
I think when fans look back on Gardner's career their thoughts of him are clouded with 'what might have been'. He was a fair/good player (I'd give him 7/10) who, but for injuries could have been better. I'm not criticizing him in any way, just saying he was not a great player.
Reverse, reverse, reverse.. Sweet Mc you post some drivel and some of it is offensive but we take it in our stride and let it lie but you were critical of Ricardo and fairly offensive about the lad.
He has always stood up and been counted when fit, played wherever asked and probably the best away game I can remember in Munich he did more than his bit.
If we choose to think of him as one of the better players then so be it, I am not sure why this prompts you to criticise the lad whose career has been blighted by injury, injuries sustained in trying to do his best for the club.
My last word on this Gardner thing.
You may think I post some drivel, well so be it, but I do dissagee that my posts are offensive. I just say it as I see it and don't try to make out that players (or whatever) were 'Great' just because their time is up.
What's this 'we take it in our stride and let it lie' nonsense. No you don't. You accuse me of being critical and offensive and then attack me for opinions I have never held.
P.S. I don't think calling a 33yr old man 'lad' is very respectful
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sweetmcdonald wrote:
Catastrophe wrote: sweet mcdonald wrote: Woody and Cowdrill, You put your interpretation on what I said then ask me to defend it.
Nowhere did I say that I didn't like him or did I have a bad word for him.
I think when fans look back on Gardner's career their thoughts of him are clouded with 'what might have been'. He was a fair/good player (I'd give him 7/10) who, but for injuries could have been better. I'm not criticizing him in any way, just saying he was not a great player.
Reverse, reverse, reverse.. Sweet Mc you post some drivel and some of it is offensive but we take it in our stride and let it lie but you were critical of Ricardo and fairly offensive about the lad.
He has always stood up and been counted when fit, played wherever asked and probably the best away game I can remember in Munich he did more than his bit.
If we choose to think of him as one of the better players then so be it, I am not sure why this prompts you to criticise the lad whose career has been blighted by injury, injuries sustained in trying to do his best for the club.
My last word on this Gardner thing.
You may think I post some drivel, well so be it, but I do dissagee that my posts are offensive. I just say it as I see it and don't try to make out that players (or whatever) were 'Great' just because their time is up.
What's this 'we take it in our stride and let it lie' nonsense. No you don't. You accuse me of being critical and offensive and then attack me for opinions I have never held.
P.S. I don't think calling a 33yr old man 'lad' is very respectful
For some reason (probably my incompetence) what I was trying to say in my last piece didn't make it on the board.
Anyway, Gardner, may not have been a great for us like McGinley, Walker, Worthington, Okocha, Djorkaeff or Lofthouse. He was still a good servant for the club and staying for 14 years shows how loyal he was to the club. With the injuries that he had, he could have looked for pastures new, like Joey O'Brien or one or two others you can mention. So good luck to the lad.
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sweetmcdonald wrote: Catastrophe wrote: sweet mcdonald wrote: Woody and Cowdrill, You put your interpretation on what I said then ask me to defend it.
Nowhere did I say that I didn't like him or did I have a bad word for him.
I think when fans look back on Gardner's career their thoughts of him are clouded with 'what might have been'. He was a fair/good player (I'd give him 7/10) who, but for injuries could have been better. I'm not criticizing him in any way, just saying he was not a great player.
Reverse, reverse, reverse.. Sweet Mc you post some drivel and some of it is offensive but we take it in our stride and let it lie but you were critical of Ricardo and fairly offensive about the lad.
He has always stood up and been counted when fit, played wherever asked and probably the best away game I can remember in Munich he did more than his bit.
If we choose to think of him as one of the better players then so be it, I am not sure why this prompts you to criticise the lad whose career has been blighted by injury, injuries sustained in trying to do his best for the club.
My last word on this Gardner thing.
You may think I post some drivel, well so be it, but I do dissagee that my posts are offensive. I just say it as I see it and don't try to make out that players (or whatever) were 'Great' just because their time is up.
What's this 'we take it in our stride and let it lie' nonsense. No you don't. You accuse me of being critical and offensive and then attack me for opinions I have never held.
P.S. I don't think calling a 33yr old man 'lad' is very respectful
Yep you post drivel, clever editing you must be a web master
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Gardner was very good as a attacking left midfielder/winger in his early days and created many goal scoring opportunities for the team.
However, when he switched to left back, a move I admit I thought would be wrong for him, he improved again and for a year or two was probably the most consistent full back in the Premiership.
Even when injuries took their toll he was prepared to change again and switch to centre midfield.
I will remember him as an extremely talented footballer, but more than that; one who put the team first and his own wants second. He did whatever he was asked to do for the good of BWFC to the best of his ability.
Thats why I think he's a Wanderers legend.
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cardiffwhite wrote: Gardner was very good as a attacking left midfielder/winger in his early days and created many goal scoring opportunities for the team.
However, when he switched to left back, a move I admit I thought would be wrong for him, he improved again and for a year or two was probably the most consistent full back in the Premiership.
Even when injuries took their toll he was prepared to change again and switch to centre midfield.
I will remember him as an extremely talented footballer, but more than that; one who put the team first and his own wants second. He did whatever he was asked to do for the good of BWFC to the best of his ability.
Thats why I think he's a Wanderers legend.
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Greeny2 wrote: Kevin Davies signs a new one year contract and Sam Rickets a two year contract.
Leaving are:-
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Robinson
Davis
Blake
Gardner
Klasnic
Connolly
Obadeyi
Rhys Bennet
Dino Fazlic
Tom Eckersley
Jussi and (soory to say) Zat Knight are in negotiations. A bit of a shame about Tom Eckersley he looked quite promising oh well.
Nice to see some of the dead wood gone, shame about Steinson though though he was a pretty solid player. Never heard of Rhys Bennet, Dino Fazlic, were they from the youth academy?
As for blake what a total waste of time, all the time he's been at Bolton can only remember him coming on once as a sub.
Can't believe Z.Knight might still be with us next season, thought the Knightmare was over! Can O.Coyle not see how bad this guy has been for us. I heard there were 20 players released, I didn't even think we had 20 players.
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According to "The BN", OC is giving Jussi and Knight 2 weeks to sort out what they are doing. Believe Knight wants to stop at the club for another season, before trying to make his retirement money in the USA. Talks with both should hopefully be done in the next few days.
Jussi, is currently having a new house built, so I can expect him to carry on, although all previous negotations with him, always seem to drag on.
Coyle says he doesn't want this to drag on, since he needs to find replacements earlier rather than later, should they decide not to stay. Although currently I would prefer Ricketts and Ream at CB's rather than Ream and Knight.
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Reo - Coker on the list for Big Sam at West Ham and Seville.
sounds about right take more massive wages and walk away if it doesn't work out for you.
Good riddance!
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bdi wrote:
Coyle says he doesn't want this to drag on, since he needs to find replacements earlier rather than later, should they decide not to stay. Although currently I would prefer Ricketts and Ream at CB's rather than Ream and Knight.
Some might argue that Coyle should have been looking for Jussi's replacement as soon as he walked in the door! 
Not three years down the line when he's already second choice behind a very suspect Bogdan!
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I'm really worried about our strikers next season.
N'Gog -
He has proved at every level so far that he can't score goals,he works his socks off,gets into the right positions(at pace) but never bloody finishes.
SKD -
Has been so effective for so long now but the championships like a new school in a rougher part of town and he's going to have his work cut out to keep up with 46 games.Plus he's hardly a prolific scorer.
Sordell -
Well who can really say here? I'm not going to judge the lad when i've seen only snatches of him.He scored 10 for Watford so there's hope.
Having typed that i realise that having no fire power apart from a brief spell with Anelka has been a problem since McGinlay left(15 long years ago).
I think that if we can get Chungy and Holden back keep Petrov and Eagles and pray Muamba gets back to playing fitness that with the Prat, Vela,Wylde and one signing we wont be too bad, remembering at least one of his loans is going to be in that area.
The defence is as in need of desperate overhaul as the strike force.
Alonso-Knight(?)-Ream-Mears doesnt inspire me at all.
We seem to churn out quality keepers so i'm not too worried in that position.Last edited on Thu May 24th, 2012 01:43 pm by scentless_apprentice
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scentless_apprentice wrote:
I'm really worried about our strikers next season.
N'Gog -
He has proved at every level so far that he can't score goals,he works his socks off,gets into the right positions(at pace) but never bloody finishes.
SKD -
Has been so effective for so long now but the championships like a new school in a rougher part of town and he's going to have his work cut out to keep up with 46 games.Plus he's hardly a prolific scorer.
Sordell -
Well who can really say here? I'm not going to judge the lad when i've seen only snatches of him.He scored 10 for Watford so there's hope.
Having typed that i realise that having no fire power apart from a brief spell with Anelka has been a problem since McGinlay left(15 long years ago).
I think that if we can get Chungy and Holden back keep Petrov and Eagles and pray Muamba gets back to playing fitness that with the Prat, Vela,Wylde and one signing we wont be too bad, remembering at least one of his loans is going to be in that area.
The defence is as in need of desperate overhaul as the strike force.
Alonso-Knight(?)-Ream-Mears doesnt inspire me at all.
We seem to churn out quality keepers so i'm not too worried in that position.
and yet we are being linked heavily with Miyachi and a new goalkeeper (sky). Wouldn't mind Knight and Jussi going. Given them two weeks to decide is over generous, they'd have been lucky to get one week to decide with me. Knight should go to America right now as far as I'm concerned.
Ngog scoring this season will depend on whether Coyle can really coach (rather than manage). If he can't Ngog wont score, but if he can the lad will be on fire. We do need another goal scorer, but defence is desparate for at least one signing if not two. Wheater is out for nine months remember and we just got rid of two young central defenders.
Suppose Coyle will be on holiday now.
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