| Author | Post |
|---|
Havoc
Member
| Joined: | Thu Oct 4th, 2007 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 658 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sun Jun 3rd, 2012 07:52 pm |
|
Did anyone else get this pile of cack from Chairman Phil in their inbox in the past few days. I thought it was a phishing email at first so deleted it, but apparently it's genuine (I know a few other fans who have received it). Be warned, it might take ages to load and you might need to reduce the screen size. Whichever chimp they got to design it must be the brains of the Wanderers Marketing Dept.
http://communicatoremail.com/IN/cc1l2KO-nZrFdzM5xwnr7R1-cRLvhymJhbkzTAImdV6/WebView.aspx
Gartside must really be missing his Premier League and FA Committees. 
Last edited on Sun Jun 3rd, 2012 07:53 pm by Havoc
|
Billy Bradshaw
Administrator
| Joined: | Mon Oct 4th, 2004 |
| Location: | United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 17273 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sun Jun 3rd, 2012 08:04 pm |
|
| I homestly don't see what's wrong with it? You might disagree and you might think it's cobblers, but at least he's taken the time to talk to the fans?
____________________
The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark.
|
Havoc
Member
| Joined: | Thu Oct 4th, 2007 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 658 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sun Jun 3rd, 2012 08:16 pm |
|
Phrases like "we will have one of the largest wage bills in the Championship this season to help us achieve this aim of promotion", don't exactly inspire confidence. And we had an "excellent stadium" and "strong and established partnerships with 188Bet" etc.. last season. Look where that got the club. If I was Chariman Phil, I would worry more about the quality of the playing squad; not the cost of it. And I would focus less on whether or not the stadium has a nice lick of paint and sponsor logo on it and concentrate more on the performance of the manager.
Last edited on Sun Jun 3rd, 2012 08:18 pm by Havoc
|
Frankie
Administrator
| Joined: | Sat Oct 16th, 2004 |
| Location: | - |
| Posts: | 16970 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Mon Jun 4th, 2012 01:33 am |
|
| Doesn´t tell us much ..... more like an appeal to "keep the faith"
____________________
|
Billy Bradshaw
Administrator
| Joined: | Mon Oct 4th, 2004 |
| Location: | United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 17273 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Mon Jun 4th, 2012 08:50 am |
|
Havoc wrote: Phrases like "we will have one of the largest wage bills in the Championship this season to help us achieve this aim of promotion", don't exactly inspire confidence. And we had an "excellent stadium" and "strong and established partnerships with 188Bet" etc.. last season. Look where that got the club. If I was Chariman Phil, I would worry more about the quality of the playing squad; not the cost of it. And I would focus less on whether or not the stadium has a nice lick of paint and sponsor logo on it and concentrate more on the performance of the manager.
But isn't he just trying to reassure fans that he's spending plenty of money in an attempt to get back into the PL?
I can't help think that hatred of PG clouds judgement, so that no matter what he says would be attacked.
____________________
The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark.
|
bdi
Member
|
Posted: Mon Jun 4th, 2012 01:06 pm |
|
Billy Bradshaw wrote: Havoc wrote: Phrases like "we will have one of the largest wage bills in the Championship this season to help us achieve this aim of promotion", don't exactly inspire confidence. And we had an "excellent stadium" and "strong and established partnerships with 188Bet" etc.. last season. Look where that got the club. If I was Chariman Phil, I would worry more about the quality of the playing squad; not the cost of it. And I would focus less on whether or not the stadium has a nice lick of paint and sponsor logo on it and concentrate more on the performance of the manager.
But isn't he just trying to reassure fans that he's spending plenty of money in an attempt to get back into the PL?
I can't help think that hatred of PG clouds judgement, so that no matter what he says would be attacked.
How many Chairmen, say anything, not many... P.G. imo Okay I am the optimistic one, so any messages from the Club, then I have faith in.
Not messages from Posters, who read other Forums, and assume that other Forums are the truth...
____________________
"Success is an Enemy to the Loser of the Day".
"The Reebok is My Church"
"Wanderers is my Religion".
(After 61 years, you either have Bolton inside you, or you start supporting another Team)... Since I haven't started supporting another Team, tells my side of the story).
|
Loftys Roar
Member
| Joined: | Wed Apr 6th, 2005 |
| Location: | London |
| Posts: | 1200 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2012 08:52 am |
|
Billy Bradshaw wrote:
Havoc wrote: Phrases like "we will have one of the largest wage bills in the Championship this season to help us achieve this aim of promotion", don't exactly inspire confidence. And we had an "excellent stadium" and "strong and established partnerships with 188Bet" etc.. last season. Look where that got the club. If I was Chariman Phil, I would worry more about the quality of the playing squad; not the cost of it. And I would focus less on whether or not the stadium has a nice lick of paint and sponsor logo on it and concentrate more on the performance of the manager.
But isn't he just trying to reassure fans that he's spending plenty of money in an attempt to get back into the PL?
I can't help think that hatred of PG clouds judgement, so that no matter what he says would be attacked.
I thought it was a fair letter that reflects where we are as a club. He's basically saying we have the infrastructure to go straight back up. Plus its long term focus of the club, not knee jerk response to one season
____________________
Opinionated, but considers the whole picture.
|
Greeny2
Member
| Joined: | Tue Sep 20th, 2011 |
| Location: | United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 1758 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2012 04:37 pm |
|
| Desperate and shameful attempt to sell season tickets - thats all.
|
scentless_apprentice
Member
| Joined: | Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 1728 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2012 01:34 am |
|
Making the best of a bad situation?
we all know it's crap and not what we want but life goes on i'm afraid and apart from the stuff about swift return to the premier league and highest wages i think it's what i would have expected if we had stayed up.
What else is the man to say?
Next season will be exciting i'm sure.
____________________
Little can defeat big if little is smart,
First with the head,then with the heart.Geel Piet
|
Catte Strophe
606 Veteran
|
Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2012 01:59 pm |
|
Of course they want to sell Season tickets, they are a little bit out on a limb by keeping the structure for the Championship.
You bet if we are in this league next saeason they will cut long and deep to save money.
To be fair it shows at least some business sense and actually I don't mind this type of communication.
____________________
Does anyone remember the John Ritson strike at Mansfield ? I doubt even Ali Al-Habsi would have got a hand on that one...
|
Billy Bradshaw
Administrator
| Joined: | Mon Oct 4th, 2004 |
| Location: | United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 17273 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2012 04:13 pm |
|
Greeny2 wrote: Desperate and shameful attempt to sell season tickets - thats all.
....and I don't see why it's shameful to try and sell season tickets and bring some money into the club. They're a business. That's exactly what they should be doing.
____________________
The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark.
|
white4ever
Member
| Joined: | Thu Aug 14th, 2008 |
| Location: | United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 2502 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2012 04:35 pm |
|
| Got to feel for Phil Gartside if he doesn't say anything he's blasted and when he does say anything he's blasted again,personally i cant see what he has done wrong.
|
Billy Bradshaw
Administrator
| Joined: | Mon Oct 4th, 2004 |
| Location: | United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 17273 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2012 05:03 pm |
|
white4ever wrote: Got to feel for Phil Gartside if he doesn't say anything he's blasted and when he does say anything he's blasted again,personally i cant see what he has done wrong.
I don't, but for those who dislike him, a spin will be put on anything he says to make him look bad. Some people on this forum have argued that the club should tell us their plans because we're paying supporters. I've always argued that the club is a business and don't owe us any explanation around the finances etc. But here we are with a chairman that takes the time to tell the fans what direction the board wants for the club.....and he gets attacked. Perhaps next time he'll say nothing?
____________________
The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark.
|
Revelations
Member
| Joined: | Sat Nov 20th, 2010 |
| Location: | United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 703 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2012 05:42 pm |
|
An interesting read, Havoc, it's pretty concise and definitely to the point, thankfully there seems to be a positive agenda in place and taking shape, new shirts every season entirely necessary? still I suppose if it assists us with our main aim of Premier League football, fair do's.
A message for those worried youngsters of our modern era, lots of fond memories of second tier football during the 90's and arguably some of the best experiences I've ever had as a Wanderer's supporter, it won't be easy, but it will be enjoyable.
____________________
Every institution not only carries within it the seeds of its own dissolution, but prepares the way for its most hated rival.
|
Frankie
Administrator
| Joined: | Sat Oct 16th, 2004 |
| Location: | - |
| Posts: | 16970 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2012 06:34 pm |
|
Greeny2 wrote: Desperate and shameful attempt to sell season tickets - thats all.
You live in in a cynical, cynical world
____________________
|
Valderee
606 Veteran
|
Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2012 07:58 pm |
|
Dear Supporter,
We were rubbish last season. We got relegated and we are broke. We haven't got a clue what to do to get out of this mess. The owner won't give us any money, the manager is an idiot, and what players we have left are no hopers.
I'd ask you to buy a season ticket but I daresay you are broke too and fed up of watching us struggle and get hammered by all and sundry. So don't bother, just turn up as and when you feel like it. Or not at all, please yourselves. To be honest you'd be better going off to support a big club like United, or a small club like Bury.
Anyway, if you do turn up it will be nice to see you, if you can spare the time.
Yours in hope more than expectation
The Chairman
Bolton Wanderers FC
____________________
There are Cutthroats Crooks and Conmen running this jail
Is there any club left in England
Or any ground left in England
Or any fan left in England
That's not for sale.
|
rizlar
Member
| Joined: | Wed Dec 30th, 2009 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 496 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2012 08:00 pm |
|
| I am not a fan of Gartside but I see nothing wrong with what he wrote at least he is letting us know what is happening I commend him for that! Onwards and upwards.
|
Senor
Member
|
Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2012 08:26 pm |
|
I cannot understand why people are being so negative about the letter. He is just telling us whats going on and their hopes for next season. We could have a much worse chairman in my opinion, for what its worth I think he's done a pretty good job overall over the years, we cant just lambast him because of this season.
Good on him, lets get behind the club, not slagging them off at the first opportunity. I am looking forward to this season, with more games and at proper kick off times.
|
rizlar
Member
| Joined: | Wed Dec 30th, 2009 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 496 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2012 08:45 pm |
|
| Valderee that was funny gave me a good laugh seeing as my life is shit at the moment!We still need to draw a line uuder everything and start. afresh however if we r not in the top 6 by xmas OC will be attacked on here by me no excuses this time!
|
scentless_apprentice
Member
| Joined: | Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 1728 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2012 08:49 pm |
|
| Xmas....your very generous!!
____________________
Little can defeat big if little is smart,
First with the head,then with the heart.Geel Piet
|
rizlar
Member
| Joined: | Wed Dec 30th, 2009 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 496 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2012 09:12 pm |
|
| Generous is my middle name I like to give OC a chance to prove me wrong.
|
bdi
Member
|
Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2012 09:25 pm |
|
P.G., said what he thought needed to be said, and in that I agree.
Whether truthful or not, I have no idea, but would bend it to be on the truthful side of Bolton's ambitions.
We all know the financial facts, the players that we had. and their performances. (Open any thread, and your can read the comments on every player).
What P.G. has basically said, imo, from now on... This is where we want to see Bolton go...
This coming season, next season, or whenever, this will happen.
I am not bothered. Won't change my views of the club, and will still support them as strongly as always...
____________________
"Success is an Enemy to the Loser of the Day".
"The Reebok is My Church"
"Wanderers is my Religion".
(After 61 years, you either have Bolton inside you, or you start supporting another Team)... Since I haven't started supporting another Team, tells my side of the story).
|
scentless_apprentice
Member
| Joined: | Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 1728 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2012 09:30 pm |
|
Oh i like the guy but this is his only chance in my book and he'd better get it right, no excuses now players back,lesser compettion,new squad,HIS SQUAD, everything he wanted really.
Time to deliver.
____________________
Little can defeat big if little is smart,
First with the head,then with the heart.Geel Piet
|
rizlar
Member
| Joined: | Wed Dec 30th, 2009 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 496 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2012 09:40 pm |
|
| With you on that 1 no more excuses can be used
|
cardiffwhite
Member
|
Posted: Thu Jun 7th, 2012 05:24 pm |
|
Senor wrote: I cannot understand why people are being so negative about the letter. He is just telling us whats going on and their hopes for next season. We could have a much worse chairman in my opinion, for what its worth I think he's done a pretty good job overall over the years, we cant just lambast him because of this season.
Good on him, lets get behind the club, not slagging them off at the first opportunity. I am looking forward to this season, with more games and at proper kick off times.
Totally agree & saved me from typing it
____________________
"Once when Bolton's Icelandic defender Gudni Bergsson got the ball 40 yards out from Barnsley's goal Lars yelled "Shoot, Shoot!".
But then Bergsson did shoot, from 40 yards, straight into the net. Lars shut up."
|
cardiffwhite
Member
|
Posted: Thu Jun 7th, 2012 05:25 pm |
|
| Also I'd be a bit worried if our Chairman was NOT trying to sell season tickets - wouldn't you?
____________________
"Once when Bolton's Icelandic defender Gudni Bergsson got the ball 40 yards out from Barnsley's goal Lars yelled "Shoot, Shoot!".
But then Bergsson did shoot, from 40 yards, straight into the net. Lars shut up."
|
Catte Strophe
606 Veteran
|
Posted: Fri Jun 8th, 2012 12:37 pm |
|
Valderee wrote: Dear Supporter,
We are not Bury. Have a lovely summer.
The Chairman
Bolton Wanderers FC
Concise and to the point, PG would have if he had indeed been concise and to the point got a sale out of me.
____________________
Does anyone remember the John Ritson strike at Mansfield ? I doubt even Ali Al-Habsi would have got a hand on that one...
|
Istanbilly
Member
| Joined: | Fri Oct 8th, 2004 |
| Location: | Istanbul, Turkey |
| Posts: | 2085 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sun Jun 10th, 2012 06:39 am |
|
I think that is a really good move on the part of PG. Most football club chairmen will not be writing to the fans (and most of them won't be holding season ticket prices for the 7th consecutive year). It doesn't matter that the letter is an attempt to sell season tickets what matters is that the supporters get behind the team and play their part in helping us to win promotion at the first attempt and I think he makes that point quite well.
I haven't got a season ticket and won't be buying one, but then the commute from Istanbul isn't an easy one! But if still lived in Bolton I would certainly have one. Not because of PG's letter but because I am, always have been and always will be a Bolton fan. But for me, PG's letter is a good thing - it just isn't formatted very well!
|
Billy Bradshaw
Administrator
| Joined: | Mon Oct 4th, 2004 |
| Location: | United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 17273 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sun Jun 10th, 2012 08:13 am |
|
Istanbilly wrote: I think that is a really good move on the part of PG. Most football club chairmen will not be writing to the fans (and most of them won't be holding season ticket prices for the 7th consecutive year). It doesn't matter that the letter is an attempt to sell season tickets what matters is that the supporters get behind the team and play their part in helping us to win promotion at the first attempt and I think he makes that point quite well.
I haven't got a season ticket and won't be buying one, but then the commute from Istanbul isn't an easy one! But if still lived in Bolton I would certainly have one. Not because of PG's letter but because I am, always have been and always will be a Bolton fan. But for me, PG's letter is a good thing - it just isn't formatted very well!
Any old excuse!!
____________________
The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark.
|
Current time is 12:24 pm | |
|
